SAN 230 Surfing Setup Summary Thread

[sgrider24]

I have a 2012 230. I took out the hard tanks and installed the Wakemakers 1140's. I definitely need more weight in the rest of the boat. I'm trying to decide between adding a bow bag coming off the factory hard tank or just going with shot bags. I am usually a light crew with only about 540 pounds of human weight and take 220 off that when I'm the one surfing. How many are successfully going with a bow bag and no shot bags versus those going with no bow bag, but shot bags only? If going with a bow bag, what size did you go with? There are options from 300 to 750 pounds on wakemakers.

[hal2814]

I have a 2011 and went with the underbow bag, specifically the Fly High w711. It’s a 650lb bag. I just plumbed it in piggybacked to the tank. It fits well but bulges the front cushion just a little bit when full.

I thought about lead but I don’t like the idea of that weight permanently riding up front in lead form. I’ve played around with adding weight in addition to the under bow bag but I didn’t like what it did to the push vs how much it lengthened the wave.

[ducatidesmo]

Welp, after a year, let go of the rope. I have to have the NSS at 5 in order to keep in the wave. but I'm 230 (go figure)

[paticus]

So I ended up getting the 650 piggy backs on the stock hard tanks. I don't have trays so have extra room. But with the 650 bags, I am pretty sire you could have the trays. Great place for wet towels or extra life jackets.

fwiw. I have wake maker 650's and the trays fit just fine still. I refuse to give up that storage, its just too useful for me (particularly with the wet stuff!)

[SkimRider]

So I ended up getting the 650 piggy backs on the stock hard tanks. I don't have trays so have extra room. But with the 650 bags, I am pretty sire you could have the trays.

Can anyone confirm whether or not the trays will fit with the "Dual ExactFIT 650" pounders from Wakemakers?

[charlesml3]

Can anyone confirm whether or not the trays will fit with the "Dual ExactFIT 650" pounders from Wakemakers?

I'm pretty sure with 650 pound bags the trays will still fit. They will NOT fit with 740s (if they're completely full).

-Charles

[paticus]

Can anyone confirm whether or not the trays will fit with the "Dual ExactFIT 650" pounders from Wakemakers?

I mentioned it in my post right before yours, but to clarify, I have the wake maker exact fit 650's, which sit on top of the stock hard tanks. I basically swapped out the stock pro ballast bags for the 650's. You can still use the trays that come with the 2019 SAN 230. Exact fit is the right terminology for these bags, as they are basically touching the bottom of the tray. If the rear hatch is open the tray kind of floats 1/8" or so, so that's how I know they are right up against it underneath.

[paticus]

2019 230 +
Wakemaker 650’s +
500 pounds of lead wake ballast bags =
Awesome!

I tried out the additional lead bags today. NSS and NCRS at 3. MPH at 10.5. The first thing I did when I got up was get shot straight towards the back of the boat and had to pump the brakes. I was not used to that amount of push previously. I finally found the pocket towards the back of the wake.

The cool thing is, I only had about 200lbs of humans in the boat. My wife who was driving and my two kids.

I’m pretty happy about that because I am 6’5” 250 lbs, so I was concerned I was only going to have a good time if the boat was full of people. But it was a blast!

I got very few pictures because my wife was driving, but I’ll try to get some more next time.

[ffmedic74]

What's the difference between the pro ballast bags and the exact fit 650 bags? Do the trays still fit with the 650 bags?

[ffmedic74]

What's the difference between the factory Nautique pro ballast bags and the exact fit 650 bags? Do the trays still fit with the 650 bags?

[PapaBear]

I believe the factory pro ballast bags are 400 lbs each. So the 650s together add an extra 500 pounds of ballast. In my experience, the trays kind of fit. If you leave the trays in and the lids closed while they fill, they will fill until the bags contact the trays, then start discharging through the overflow port. If you completely fill the 650s with the lids open and the trays out, then try to put the trays and lids back in, they don’t fit (maybe a couple inches of lift). Given this, I’ve been keeping my starboard tray in and my port tray out, so that the port side overfills a bit more and adds to my desired weight bias. That said, it’s probably not a huge difference in weight, and if you filled both sides with the lids closed and trays in, it will probably all work fine and be plenty of weight. I may just switch to this.


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[paticus]

Yep I keep both trays in, the bags touch right up against the bottom the trays when full. Papa bear made a good point, i always have my lockers closed when filling, but I can see them maybe starting to float up if the locker doors are open when filling. Some people discussed swapping out the trays for a bungee net type thing which sounds interesting, and might allow your to get 750’s in there, depending on what you store.

[zachary1g]

I mentioned it in my post right before yours, but to clarify, I have the wake maker exact fit 650's, which sit on top of the stock hard tanks. I basically swapped out the stock pro ballast bags for the 650's. You can still use the trays that come with the 2019 SAN 230. Exact fit is the right terminology for these bags, as they are basically touching the bottom of the tray. If the rear hatch is open the tray kind of floats 1/8" or so, so that's how I know they are right up against it underneath.

How was the install? I have the same factory setup and I’m interested in the wakemaker 650s

Edit: Would you recommend the engine divider panel reinforcement I’ve seen mentioned on other threads or the 650s fit with minimal stress ?

[SkimRider]

I asked about the trays fitting with the 650's a few weeks ago. I went ahead and got them and installed them. I was going to say exactly what PapaBear said. That is spot on in my experience.

The only thing I would add, is that I did the install on just the port side first and went out and tested it. I left the both trays in and the lids closed and filled port and starboard ballasts. Once full, the boat listed to the port side fairly heavily. So, my conclusion is that even with the trays in, you are getting a fair amount of additional ballast over the stock Pro ballast. Hard to say how much.

I'm pretty excited, because I had been bringing an extra bag for the floor out when it was just two of us. Now, I don't need to do that anymore! Have not added any lead yet, but, I may put some up front.

Regarding the install, it wasn't too bad at all and I am not very "handy". I'm actually making an install video for WakeMakers.

I'm wondering about the dividers too. One of my horizontal bars has bowed slightly.

[PapaBear]

I asked about the trays fitting with the 650's a few weeks ago. I went ahead and got them and installed them. I was going to say exactly what PapaBear said. That is spot on in my experience.

The only thing I would add, is that I did the install on just the port side first and went out and tested it. I left the both trays in and the lids closed and filled port and starboard ballasts. Once full, the boat listed to the port side fairly heavily. So, my conclusion is that even with the trays in, you are getting a fair amount of additional ballast over the stock Pro ballast. Hard to say how much.

I'm pretty excited, because I had been bringing an extra bag for the floor out when it was just two of us. Now, I don't need to do that anymore! Have not added any lead yet, but, I may put some up front.

Regarding the install, it wasn't too bad at all and I am not very "handy". I'm actually making an install video for WakeMakers.

I'm wondering about the dividers too. One of my horizontal bars has bowed slightly.

Agree that the install is straightforward. If I remember correctly, it’s clipping the factory zip ties out, then swapping the factory fill and drain tubes from one bag to the other with hose clamps. I think I remember the hardest part being pulling the factory fittings out of the hoses...mine were just kind of stuck in there.

I would say the divider reinforcements are a necessity. I did mine at the same time as the bags as I didn’t want to wait for them to possibly fail. However, I initially only reinforced the panels but didn’t add a second pin to the rear channel. I then had an episode where the divider lifted in the rear channel and came out of the lower channel and we likely surfed all day in this state. When I discovered it, the divider was badly bowed in the non reinforced plane. With some hot days, sunlight, and weight, I got it back in shape. I have since drilled a new hole through the rear channels and through the divider through which I place a bolt and wing nut to prevent any lifting.

My divider reinforcements are made from cheap L-channel aluminum and oriented vertically, 3 on each (engine) side of the dividers with a few nuts and bolts each to hold them to the divider. They’ve worked great. You just have to limit their length more than you’d expect to allow room for the lower channel engagement below and room to clear the fiberglass and gel coat rim of the locker above as you slide them into the side channels.


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