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Got out again this weekend- wake felt really good, and was totally rideable with the smaller wakesurf board....nothing changed from last except that I made sure to get every bag totally full....
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Really nice looking wave. Best I've seen with a sport nautique. Do you have any issues with keeping the gate underwater and listing the boat? Just to add to the thread. Here is my 99 sport. I have three reversible pumps and about 2,000 lbs total with a homemade gate. We still need some more tweaking...Attached FilesLast edited by glassywaters; 11-05-2017, 08:53 AM.Comment
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Nope, no issues.....the only thing is that if the driver is aggressive and causes perfect pass to overshoot the speed (10.5mph) and we get some pretty serious roostertail/spray into the boat at about 12mph before PP settles the speed down to 10.5mphOriginally posted by glassywaters View Post1986 Silver Nautique
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Looks really good!! Nice and long with the curl. So jealous. All I do is watch ski/surf vids all winter.Originally posted by Tom351Got out again this weekend- wake felt really good, and was totally rideable with the smaller wakesurf board....nothing changed from last except that I made sure to get every bag totally full....
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Glassywaters, I see your a fellow goofy rider. See post number 50 of my wave on a 2000 Air DD (same boat as sport). Your wave looks good. What's your setup with the 2000lbs.? Speed? Shaper type?Originally posted by glassywaters
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I have a Sumo Long 800 in the trunk, a 750 sac behind the engine (found on ebay, it's like 20 x 20 x 65 no idea on type), and 300 in ski locker all tied to individual reversible pumps. Plus a lead wake or two. All weight is in rear, shifted to surf side. I usually manually fill an extra 200-300 on the rear seat on surf side to give the boat a little lean. I don't list the boat very much, it's pretty much even with a bias towards surf side.Originally posted by zeckto13 View Post
Here is the shaper I copied, I get it as far back and below water line as possible. I imagine a shaper lower in the water and further back will lengthen the wave as others have posted. Speed is variable for us as we surf in a moving body of water. I have GPS PP and tend to go a little on the slower side, maybe 9.5 - 10.5. The Sport is very finicky, but we surf in deep water 30+ feet, start off slow and avoiding getting on plane, turning the boat (right a little for goofy) a little helps shape it even more, etc...
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807068
We also wakeboard quite a bit and throw another 200-300 in the nose to help balance out the weight. These boats do like their rear weight...
Also propped up with an acme 1868. Cuts through like butter...Attached FilesLast edited by glassywaters; 11-05-2017, 12:05 PM.Comment
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Nice wave Glassywaters! I was in about 10-12 feet of water last time out (pics above) do you see a big difference when getting into the deeper water? Trying to decide if it would be worth it for me to drive to a deeper spot in my local lake.Originally posted by glassywaters View Post
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Nice wakeboarding pic! I'm too old for that now. Hah. I also started out with a Mission Delta style shaper. Then made one like Toms/ the Ronix shaper. Had improvement with wake divergence and curve in the wave to give a better and longer pocket. Going to make mine a bit wider as mentioned in the thread come spring. Sounds like we're running close the same weight setup but I need to add 300lbs to the ski locker, on the to do list. Post some vids if you get a chance experimenting with the wave. Glad to see another DD have success surfing.Originally posted by glassywaters
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You guys inspired me to do better. Added more weight to back and surf side. I'll post video later. Fall riding is great. No one out for over two hours. I also wanted to follow up and say deeper water is definitely better. I'd say 15+ makes a difference. We were able to ride further back than ever before and even had a nice lip curling at times.Attached FilesComment
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Nice! That wave looks great!!1986 Silver Nautique
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https://vimeo.com/243450287
https://vimeo.com/243450366
Don't mind the goofy audio. We were pretty stoked.Comment
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Wow! That wave is sweet! Best I've seen on the starboard side. Seems much larger than mine. I noticed your floor bag across the back runs the whole length of the bench. I have a fly high 750lb and it doesn't extend that long. Is that a fly high bag? Also, so what was your setup and speed that day? In the first vid when the driver said he sped up a little the wave looked totally perfect. Regarding the shaper pic in the water, was that after filling all the ballast or before? So jealous, I won't be getting out till June but did go cross country skiing in Banff yesterday, hah. Keep the vids coming, with those waves from you and Toms, you guys can try some 360's!
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Tom, sorry to hijack your thread. First of all...googled banff and seems pretty cool. Scenery must be awesome. The bag is a fly high but randomly bought off eBay. It's super long and kind of narrow. Perfect for behind the engine. Wish I knew the model #. With my ballast system and the (3) bags i couldn't be happier. The shaper is in the water with bags full. It's really hard to suction the wake shaper to the hull so I get it as low as possible, but it's really just below the water line. Kindnof sprays in the boat. need to remodel and make abetter one that fits the step of the boat like you did.'I'll do that this winter. We wakeboard/surf on a river more or less so speed is hard to say. We are between 8.5 and 11 mph depending on current. We start off slow and avoid getting on plane. You're right about the speed n the video, as soon as I sped up the wake got perfect! Happy to keep you stoked all winter . We ride year round!Comment
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Good stuff. So did you have 300lb in ski locker again? How much on floor surf side and how much on seat? Gonna try to replicate that. Thx.
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800 in trunk (sumo long)
125 1/2 tank gas - usually full, but didn't hit gas station.
600 on floor (random fly high) best guess
400 on seat (centered)
350 (small side sac fly high)
350 (ski locker small side sac fly high)
50 lb lead wake center on top of ski locker
2,675 +/- incl shaper
30+ feet of water
speed 8.5 - 11 depending on current. Start slow to form shape of wave. Too quick of start will flatten wave. Also have a acme 1868 prop I'm sure an old OJ prop will change the of the wake a little, too. The surf wake is very finicky. You can really feel the water pushing off the rudder. The best wake is when the boat avoids planning off and is in full porpoise mode. If that makes sense.
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