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I bought a 2017 Nautique 210 few weeks ago and I had hard time dialing a good surf wave. Since I tried almost every setup and know how to do it properly now maybe my post can help some guys like me in the future!
Many post and few people here helped me a lot so I wanted to help doing a general post combining all good info I had.
Thing to keep in mind 80% of the time I'm only with my wife so nobody on the boat instead a driver.
Most important tip from a long term Nautique owner was : a Nautique ALWAYS got to have the nose down.
And it's totally true, never should use the seat bumper. Especially the 210/230 hull really dislike too much rear tilt. If you need to use the seat bumper you have not enough weight on the bow and you will have hard time setting a perfect surf wave. I learned it
Fast because I was used to put a lot of rear weight on every boat I have or been on (moomba, Axis, wakesetter) Nautique is none like that they really need bow weight.
The 210 stock ballast comes with 400lbs hard tank + 300 fatsac on each rear side and 350 hard tank in the belly. All full it makes a good surfwave but as an almost 10years surfer i was not really impressed. (something clear, stock 210 makes a really good wave. What I'm talking about is more a pro surf wave.. Age made me pretty picky haha)
So a must modification for me was to change both 300 fatsac. I read a lot here and 750 was the most popular option. Tried it and had hard time having a good wave.. always washy never clean and no push at all.
Problem was too much rear weight compare to the bow weight.
Negative points with 750 was that you can't keep your storage trays. Wich i liked them. And you have to solidify sides panel if you don't want them to pop off and break something. Few more pins probably does the job but adding the wakemakers engine divider panel saver or some u bar bought at Home Depot really makes it safe.
So now bow weight. 725 underseat fatsac was the one "made for" but when I tried it I felt like it's was too much, the sac was too big for the space and it wasn't long for cushion to pop when filling.
So I tried a Sumo sac 500 and really fit there perfectly (got to remove the 2 cup holders but I have the bow center cushion so I never saw them). I don't really full it i stop just before the cushion moves. But it fills maybe 350-400lbs in it.
For NSS and hydrogate it always depends on how many people on the boat and wind.
I finally ended with this setup (my personal best choice)
2x 650 fatsac on the rear so I was able to keep my trays and it's plenty enough.
And a Sumo 500 bow bag.
I don't know if you need to solidify the engine panels cause I already done it but it's never a bad thing. Just adding couple more pins should work to be sure they don't pop.
For skim setup
All rear full and simply the bow hard tank (bow bag empty). NSS pretty always at 0 and riding at 10.1 hydrogate pretty much always at 2. It makes a phenomenal skim wake both side.
You can play with hydrogate to clean it wether ramp or vert it always depends..
Surf style I ride at 10.9- 11.0.
All ballast full including all sacs.
And this wave is amazing! To keep a ton of push I put the NSS at 2 And pretty much always hydrogate at 1. When crewed I put nss at 3. But you can do it at 1 or even 0.. it sacrifice little push but make the wave higher, not really shorter tho. After that I play a little with rear ballast when surfing port side draining a little bit starboard if the wave is not perfect. Will post photos or videos shortly!
Big Thanks to all Nautique members that helped me.
I bought a 2017 Nautique 210 few weeks ago and I had hard time dialing a good surf wave. Since I tried almost every setup and know how to do it properly now maybe my post can help some guys like me in the future!
Many post and few people here helped me a lot so I wanted to help doing a general post combining all good info I had.
Thing to keep in mind 80% of the time I'm only with my wife so nobody on the boat instead a driver.
Most important tip from a long term Nautique owner was : a Nautique ALWAYS got to have the nose down.
And it's totally true, never should use the seat bumper. Especially the 210/230 hull really dislike too much rear tilt. If you need to use the seat bumper you have not enough weight on the bow and you will have hard time setting a perfect surf wave. I learned it
Fast because I was used to put a lot of rear weight on every boat I have or been on (moomba, Axis, wakesetter) Nautique is none like that they really need bow weight.
The 210 stock ballast comes with 400lbs hard tank + 300 fatsac on each rear side and 350 hard tank in the belly. All full it makes a good surfwave but as an almost 10years surfer i was not really impressed. (something clear, stock 210 makes a really good wave. What I'm talking about is more a pro surf wave.. Age made me pretty picky haha)
So a must modification for me was to change both 300 fatsac. I read a lot here and 750 was the most popular option. Tried it and had hard time having a good wave.. always washy never clean and no push at all.
Problem was too much rear weight compare to the bow weight.
Negative points with 750 was that you can't keep your storage trays. Wich i liked them. And you have to solidify sides panel if you don't want them to pop off and break something. Few more pins probably does the job but adding the wakemakers engine divider panel saver or some u bar bought at Home Depot really makes it safe.
So now bow weight. 725 underseat fatsac was the one "made for" but when I tried it I felt like it's was too much, the sac was too big for the space and it wasn't long for cushion to pop when filling.
So I tried a Sumo sac 500 and really fit there perfectly (got to remove the 2 cup holders but I have the bow center cushion so I never saw them). I don't really full it i stop just before the cushion moves. But it fills maybe 350-400lbs in it.
For NSS and hydrogate it always depends on how many people on the boat and wind.
I finally ended with this setup (my personal best choice)
2x 650 fatsac on the rear so I was able to keep my trays and it's plenty enough.
And a Sumo 500 bow bag.
I don't know if you need to solidify the engine panels cause I already done it but it's never a bad thing. Just adding couple more pins should work to be sure they don't pop.
For skim setup
All rear full and simply the bow hard tank (bow bag empty). NSS pretty always at 0 and riding at 10.1 hydrogate pretty much always at 2. It makes a phenomenal skim wake both side.
You can play with hydrogate to clean it wether ramp or vert it always depends..
Surf style I ride at 10.9- 11.0.
All ballast full including all sacs.
And this wave is amazing! To keep a ton of push I put the NSS at 2 And pretty much always hydrogate at 1. When crewed I put nss at 3. But you can do it at 1 or even 0.. it sacrifice little push but make the wave higher, not really shorter tho. After that I play a little with rear ballast when surfing port side draining a little bit starboard if the wave is not perfect. Will post photos or videos shortly!
Big Thanks to all Nautique members that helped me.
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