Dial a surf wave SAN 210 2014+ tutorial

[F725]

Good points lucky7t. 815's in the rear may be overweight but not much more than our 750's. To me it seems like the NSS isn't working or is turned off (like lucky7 said), I've seen this happen to many people wondering why the wave doesn't clean up. . If it is working, then maybe the 815 lbs are sinking the transom of the boat too much so that the NSS plates are below the water line when moving. This would cause water from the non-surf side and above the NSS plates to converge too soon making a messy wave. Like lucky7 said, try just filling the rears about 1/2 full and see if you can then weight both sides evenly.

As for the "ideal wave" described above. I think we have it behind our boat. Mellow start, to solid lip for airs and long pocket with good push. Maybe I'm not picky enough

Let us know what you find out.

[jondavis08]

2014 210 here... this weekend I turned off the “surf” setting when my son was wakeboarding. Forgot to turn it back on when we surfed. Id check to make sure it’s turned on


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[jondavis08]

I have 825 in place of the pro ballast, 500 in the bow(only fill a little bit) piggy backed. Ride all full 10.8mpg NSS 2, gate to vert(pulled back). Sometimes I drain the opposite side a little until wave looks good. Depends on passengers


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[Soul_surfer]

Feel the same way as Lucky

i think you overweight a bit too much and it sound like your Nss don’t seems to work well. or it’s the « 4 » position who is not enough.

the only time I surfed with NSS at 4 was when we were 8poeple in the boat all ballast full + me riding surfstyle.
im pretty picky with the wave too, I’m a 10years wakesurfing now and I easily make my air, 360, even air 180 with the wave I dial only with my girlfriend in the boat.
most of the time when I’m with my neighbor x-star 2013 the only time I can easily air 180 is when we are a crew on his boat.

some say Nss Sacrifice the push when you put it too much.. Yeah when you put it at 0 but if I were you I would try some test with the nss at 3 even 2 and most important both rear bags full or try hard tank full and 3/4 piggyback it should give around 600 wich is generally perfect.
Put the hydrogate full up and to clean up the wave you can drop it at 2 or 1
if you want the wave higher slow down speed, longer wave faster.
10,5 is my speed for skim, if you like to air and do some surfstyle moves you should consider going faster like 10,9.
with this setup the Nss make you a big high wave and the speed makes the wave continue long way.
Pretty sure you can achieve your « perfect » wave as describe much easier.

My gf rides at 10.2 and Nss at 1 even 0 when it’s windy. Hydrogate full down.
She likes her wave HIGH, really high mellow and short.
Strictly the opposite of me lol.
But I’m a surfstyle Soulcraft and she is P5 skim.

You have a hard time to dial because you don’t use the Nss..
your setup is exactly the setup who everybody does without a surf system
You have to give some weight on the side of the Nss to make the plate push the water, without weight on the Nss side the plate works for nothing..
or your plate have some issues maybe and doesn’t come out.

[skullx]

Did some tests again yesterday. Tried belly full, bow ~300lbs, star half and port half, NSS 3, hydrogate vert, speed about 10.2. Here are the pics:



As we can see, NSS is working, wave lacks the height and has rooster (
I did my familiar mantra "port fill / star drain" trying to keep something in star and don't fill the port full. It became like this (notice the wash and some water flowing over NSS):

First iteration wave is non-rideable, second iteration one is worse than the one I have filling port full and star dry empty.

[F725]

I cannot see the first 4 pictures. 10.2 is too slow, 10.5 is about the minimum that I've found to get a clean wave.

[cedarcreek216]

I am not sure I have heard of anyone having this much trouble getting a great wave out of a NSS equipped 210. Did you start with just all stock full with NSS at 0 and about 10.5? Should be a real nice wave just a bit smaller than desired. Seems something is very off. Our 2013 was full and go and our 2018 is the same with even less weight. As stated here earlier, it is possible to get too much weight in the 210. If we have a boat full of adults I will actually empty ballast to help NSS work effectively.


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[F725]

Ok, now I can see the pictures. Like cedarcreek said... something is very off. That wave doesn't look anything like what a 210 is capable of. The rooster tail is big and the wave looks small.

Skullx, what are your rpm's while at 10.5?

[lucky7t]

Double post

[F725]

What hasn't been mentioned or questioned here is water depth. 12 ft deep is a minimum, deeper is better.

[lucky7t]

Something very wrong

WhatÂ’s your water depth ?

Hydrogate all the way back ?

Nss at 2?

Do you have paddle wheel or gps puck ?

HereÂ’s a grainy pic of our 15 model 210 all stock ballast with factory pro ballast , nss at 2, hydrogate all the way back , water depth 34 feet




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[lucky7t]

Drain the bow but leave belly full .

Please try my exact settings

Belly full , rears full (stock) nss at 2 and hydrogate all back . Just curious if it’s your bow sack creating this


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[Soul_surfer]

Boy.. something is really wrong.. couldn’t tell what is it but we all agreed to something this is not a 210 wave with nss..
maybe your prop have been changed or damaged. F725 said a really good point water depth.
i will post pictures of my wave Sunday since I just surf the weekends.

I will try several setting for you. Different speed, weight and nss.
You will be able to see what’s a 210 wave and maybe put the touch on your problem.
2017 have the same hull than 2014, really small changes since that.

[F725]

Here is our 2017 "mellow wave" Speed 10.6 / NSS at 1 and Hydrogate at full vert. 750's full in rear, Belly full plus 100 lbs extra in bow. No rooster tail, long wave, good height with good push.

[skullx]

My wave is your wave * 0.3
...I'm close to taking my diving mask and checking the bottom of the boat. Maybe there's a Kraken there.
Totally confused. Will try to start with as stock as possible next time. WIll document everything including RPM.