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New to the forum. I am eyeing a 2013 Sport 200 and was wondering after purchase how I can upgrade it to surf better. Planning to keep this boat a very long time so want to get it right. From browsing forums I see ripping the rear hard tanks out and replacing with 750s is the way to go, but what should I get belly or bow bag? Either way I want the bags out of sight. My next question is the bigger one. Is there a surf system that fits and works on the sport 200? I can’t really find anything on this subject but I’d really like a system instead of a suck gate. Thanks in advance for for any responses.
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I have a 2011 sport. I pulled the hard tanks and installed these
https://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-v-drive-sacs.html
I prefer them because there is still room to put jackets and gear in the compartments when the bags are full, but 750’s would certainly give you a bigger wave. I have found that completely filling the belly and rear surf side bag with speed around 10.2 gives the best wave. I tried multiple positions with a suck gate but didn’t feel the wave was as clean as when the boat is listed to the surf side.
Depending on # of passengers sometimes I use a 500 lb bag on the floor offset to the surf side
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Originally posted by Lakejackson View Post
did you cut them out or actually remove them? Going to start this project in a couple days.Comment
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I have a 2016 so my boat may be different that both of yours.
I picked up my boat late last year so we've just started "tuning" our wake but so far we've been very happy with the progress we've made in the last 2 outings. Everyone's expectations are going to be different but so far I haven't seen the need to go to any extreme to get a good surfable wake out of the boat. If you're looking for the ultimate wake then then tank removal and going to bags is probably your best move. Be aware though that unless you leave yourself a path to restore the boat to original spec you could be hurting resale. That said, this doesn't seem to be a concern for you (at least not at this time) so the removal may be your best path.
From a non rip and replace perspective we've had good luck so far by just adding a pair of bags over the existing hard tanks. The bags are not big (they appear to be about 40x20x18 as best we can tell) and fit near perfect even on the port side where my battery is located. I bought them and a Tsunami pump used including the shipping off the MasterCraft TT site for $125. We run these along with a Mission Delta 2 shaper. So far 9.9 - 10.2 seems to be the sweet spot on speed depending on if you want a longer or higher wake. The boat seems to need more weight in the front which so far we've handled by moving a passenger to the bow. To my surprise (and joy) this hasn't made the bow dive too bad but you still have to drive the boat and watch what you're doing.
So with this set up we're getting a pretty clean wake with a bit of curl and plenty of push. On our last outing, believe it or not we've been actually backing off the amount we fill the bags to try and bring the wake height down a bit and work more on the curl/push a bit more. We've also started experimenting with balance, running about a 80/70 fill with the heavier side going to the rider. Haven't played with the Mission Delta position much other than to place it just under the rub rail and as far back as possible. Once we have our ballast fill locked in we'll work on the Mission more to try and develop a bit cleaner wake.
So as to performance. I'm 6'1" and 225 pounds these days. I ride a Phase 5 Model X which is a crossover skim board and had absolutely no problem riding behind the boat or falling back on the wake and pumping the board to catch back up. If anything the height of the wake right now has a tendency to want to drive you into the platform but I believe this more of a "blame the Indian" than"blame the bow" type of thing. I've had 2 other riders surf the boat, one at 6' 175 pounds ( I'm really getting to despise these younger guys that can eat anything and stay thin) that was riding an Inland Surfer Sweet Spot and another guy at 6' 190 pounds riding an Inland Surfer Black Pearl, no one had an issue riding behind the boat and the guy on the Sweet Spot hit a couple 360s without a problem. That's 3 different board profiles, 3 different riders and no issues whatsoever. Also note that neither of those IS boards are what you would consider larger, floaty boards.
The next step for my rig will be to plumb the bags into the existing system. I have about $80 in parts (quick connect adapters, tubing, band clamps) so far to do this but am waiting on Wakemakers to ship me the clear 1" spiral wound tubing that is currently on back order to complete the installation. The expectation once completed will be that I'll have a system that I can use the existing pumps on, fill without the Tsunami pump and still be able to use the the lockers all while maintaining the stock configuration and appearance. I also plan on running all new hoses and will keep the original hoses as they are so I can take the boat back to stock if I decide to sell it later.
To each his own but this will be my set up going forward.Comment
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bturner must have a ton of covid time on his hands with that long of a response. haha.
i have a 16...hince my username. i fill all of them and add a 400 fat sac in surf side locker and surf gate attached to opposite side. depending on passengers and gas i run anywhere from 9.5 to 10.3 mphComment
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