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  • Viperchad
    • Apr 2020
    • 8

    • Pittsburgh, PA

    • 2018 GS20

    GS20-Can’t get out of the hole

    What’s up guys. Really need some help on slalom setup here. We bought the GS20 because we were told it surfs and skis very well. It took me about a month to perfect my surf setup and now I’m moving on to slalom. I’ve only ever skied a 210 closed bow Nautique. I am 230lbs and ski at 15 off, 32mph. Last night I made several lame attempts but couldn’t get out of the hole. 600lbs of people in the boat (not ideal) but still thought the ZR4 would have the balls. I drove for a friend who is about 190. Same issue. When I hammer the throttle boat just spins. Won’t jump out of the hole. Using the factory NCRS ski setting and have the plane assist on high. What are we doing wrong??
  • kylant
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2010
    • 538

    • Lake Tahoe

    • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

    #2
    what is your elevation?
    I had my GS20 at 6300ft with a 1235 prop and ZR4. I wight about 210#. It could pull me out no problem.
    Surfing on the other hand was a joke. The boat simply could not get to or hold a surf speed with more than 2 or 3 people in the boat with full ballast.
    If you are running the stock prop, (645 I believe) start there. You want to drop pitch

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    • bturner
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jun 2019
      • 1564

      • MI

      • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

      #3
      If I understand you correctly you're experiencing cavitation when you're trying to get out of the hole. If that's correct it sounds to me like you may have too much prop on the boat and you're not able to hook up (spinning isn't winning). I'd find out what prop you have on the boat now and either contact your dealer or Acme (or OJ, I don't know who the Nautique prop wizard is. For MC it's Eric at OJ) to see what they recommend.

      Be aware that there is always a trade off when trying to do it all. I run the stock recommended prop on my 200 Sport Nautique. It does it all very good but it doesn't do anything great. I knew this going in so I'm fine with what I have. I mean how many boats can you slalom in the morning then flip the switches and surf in the afternoon?

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      • Interjon
        • Dec 2019
        • 135

        • Alabama

        • 2003 196 2019 SN200

        #4
        GS22 at sea level. We use it primarily to ski. Never had any issues. Plenty of power, with a weighted boat or not. Snatched up a 260# buddy on a pretty aggressive ski last week.

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        • kylant
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • May 2010
          • 538

          • Lake Tahoe

          • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

          #5
          Originally posted by Interjon View Post
          GS22 at sea level. We use it primarily to ski. Never had any issues. Plenty of power, with a weighted boat or not. Snatched up a 260# buddy on a pretty aggressive ski last week.
          the gs22 comes with a 1235 stock
          i am pretty sure the gs20 comes with a 645 unless they changed it.
          the 645 is a 13.25x16. way too much pitch and a small diameter IMO

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          • Viperchad
            • Apr 2020
            • 8

            • Pittsburgh, PA

            • 2018 GS20

            #6
            Elevation is 1370. Prop is bone stock 2018 GS20. She just sits and spins. Cavatation big time. How can we get these 409 ponies to rip my big *** out of the water?

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            • Stevemo14
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Apr 2019
              • 691

              • Columbus, OH

              • 2005 Super Air 210 Team; 1960 Chris Craft 18' Continental

              #7
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              I would look at these options.

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              • JACOB11379
                • Jan 2020
                • 111

                • Copperopolis, California

                • 2020 Super Air Nautique GS20

                #8
                My issue is when I add weight over integrated ballasts. Can barely get going. 2020 GS20, elevation is 560. I just replaced prop with high altitude and heavy weight from wakemakers.com, but I haven't got it in the water yet.

                With additional sacs in back and front i cant go more than 8mph on surf, and wake boarding it can't even get going.

                But I've added a lot of weight. The weight you speak of I've never had an issue

                Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

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                • Kinloch
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 46

                  • New zealand

                  • 2018 gs20

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JACOB11379 View Post
                  My issue is when I add weight over integrated ballasts. Can barely get going. 2020 GS20, elevation is 560. I just replaced prop with high altitude and heavy weight from wakemakers.com, but I haven't got it in the water yet.

                  With additional sacs in back and front i cant go more than 8mph on surf, and wake boarding it can't even get going.

                  But I've added a lot of weight. The weight you speak of I've never had an issue

                  Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
                  How did you weight the front?

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                  • JACOB11379
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 111

                    • Copperopolis, California

                    • 2020 Super Air Nautique GS20

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kinloch View Post

                    How did you weight the front?
                    I had a bag made to fit under the seats and one that fits between the seats

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                    • jjackkrash
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • May 2007
                      • 498

                      • PacNW

                      • 2021 Ski

                      #11
                      There might be prop issues, but I'd also want to confirm that you have the right size ski for your weight. 400 ponies and 20 ft boat should get you out of the water if its propped right, but take it from a guy who got heavier over the years, too small a ski can be an issue as well.

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                      • jjackkrash
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • May 2007
                        • 498

                        • PacNW

                        • 2021 Ski

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Viperchad View Post
                        When I hammer the throttle boat just spins.
                        If you are getting cavitation, I'd also consider a more progressive use of the throttle than just dropping the hammer until you get the prop figured out. I don't drop the hammer on my 200 on anyone--even the bigger skiers--and a progressive start should help with the cavitation.
                        Last edited by jjackkrash; 07-03-2020, 09:58 AM.

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                        • kylant
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • May 2010
                          • 538

                          • Lake Tahoe

                          • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

                          #13
                          again, what is the prop?
                          not just stock, but what is the actual number on it?

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                          • Last Mango
                            • Jun 2019
                            • 25

                            • Windermere, FL

                            • 2019 GS20

                            #14
                            I have a 2019 GS 20 and same motor. Shocked to hear this. With 850-900 lbs of people in the boat, it pulls up a 280 lb slalom skiier fine.

                            The only lack of power we've experienced can be attributed to being extremely heavy for surfing. With full stock ballast plus an additional 800 lbs ballast aft, and a boat full of people, we need a couple people in the bow for the boat to accelerate adequately to 11 MPH.

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