Not directly a configuration question: HELP! I've not fallen, but I can't get up!!

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  • SkipGundlach
    • Jul 2023
    • 5
    • Lake Hartwell near SC/NC

    • Toccoa GA

    • 02 Malibu 21' Sunscape/Eagle one-axle, surge brakes trailer

    Not directly a configuration question: HELP! I've not fallen, but I can't get up!!

    My apologies in advance of what will inevitably turn out to be lengthy.


    Background: I'm 78 years old. After living 30 years on a lake with the last 7 of them course skiing, I lived and cruised 15 (2007-2022) years on a sailboat. I climbed the 140-ft/220 steps St. Augustine Lighthouse with no knee pain 2 years ago,and other greater or lesser ones earlier in that time. I've now lived 18 months ashore. I believe I'm reasonably fit.

    Today I have notable patellofemoral pain on knee effort. Standing from a chair, e.g., or squats, or doing seated leg curls forward is very painful. (Reverse - pulling - is very much less so.) That is the only segment of either upper or lower body work I do 4x weekly at gym, now for a year (living on a cruising sailboat was a great way to stay in general good shape!), where I have any pain.

    ~10 years ago I managed to get up behind a jet ski after it did circles until coming up on plane before pulling. Before I sold everything and moved aboard my cruising sailboat, I always wanted a full-on hot start aboard my custom 72" HO with "Nautique" on the bottom (I was 225 and 6-3+ and am 14EE with full xxxl boots; I bought it from a rep who'd had HO custom make it... ).

    So, last week, behind a Nautique, and on a not-my-ski (my son can't find it in the garbage dump of his basement, but had a wider 69" HO Charger with widely adjustable full boots which - with much soap - accepted my feet), I go in for my first pull. The last regular-boat pull (~2010?) many years ago, after many years without skiing, I had needed a more typical rolling throttle start, so that's what I asked for this time. I got out of the water but could not get up. No issues with grip; my knees pushed hard enough against my chest that over a week later, I still can't sniff or cough without pain. But my left buttock got blasted by the water torrent as I failed to get up off the ski. On the possibility that I just didn't have the strength on a smaller ski, I tried a pair. Essentially the same result.

    Yet, for a week I was coaching little kids and newbie adults, and remembered some of my mechanics that perhaps I didn't do on that thwarted set of attempts. Not rotating my hips adequately? Inadequate back strength? Or all down to the knee pain leading to lack of eventual leg strength? All of the above?

    I feel like I should be able to get up, and once I rediscover what I used to do effortlessly, should be able to ski many more years (one of the early VHS training tapes I and my son watched had an 86 year old driver for the camp doing the course, e.g.) on the lake to which I'll move in a year or so.

    Ideas? I likely won't get another chance to ski before my move, but also will have that time to work out and work on whatever portion of my mechanics which is failing. And finally, has anyone had the same pain issues but has resolved them?

    Thanks.

    --

    The years thunder by.
    The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience.
    Before we know it, the tomb is sealed.

    - Sterling Hayden
  • Scooter G
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 1320

    • On a Lake in Idaho

    • 2022 G23 ZZ8

    #2
    I started a simple exercise years ago not even sure it has a name, some sort of RDLS. This was the closet video I could find to an example. I will keep both hands on a dumbell standing on one leg using the other leg for balance, all the way to the ground on the outside, all the way down in the middle, all the way to the ground on the inside. Switch sides, repeat. Start light, you'll feel it with 10lbs or less, and go smoothly. The dude in the video has got some sort of jerky thing going on, again the closet I could find to an example. This changed my roll up balance game and standing dock starts on a ski to a whole new level. Simple but effective.
    Thanks for the introduction and being an example to us at 78, cudos!
    I have rock solid knees, but every once in a while it's almost like you get a flu in your joints out of know where, shoulder, knee, repeat. I mega load on Glucosamine for a couple days and good to go. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.
    Keep us posted on your progress...

    https://youtube.com/shorts/2CbTV7J5G2k

    Remember, what ever you're doing, enjoy the ride!
    ~borrowed from Shaun Murray - Peace

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    • SkipGundlach
      • Jul 2023
      • 5
      • Lake Hartwell near SC/NC

      • Toccoa GA

      • 02 Malibu 21' Sunscape/Eagle one-axle, surge brakes trailer

      #3
      Thanks for that. Clarifying: the vid shows mostly waist deflection - and not all that much, either, due to the depth-from-handle of the bell - with a very small knee deflection, and the ball lands only at the side. Other than the ball landing between the feet, and at the toe, is there any other difference from that video in your routine?

      As to Glucosamine, I do that daily, along with multivitamin and other stuff...

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      • SkipGundlach
        • Jul 2023
        • 5
        • Lake Hartwell near SC/NC

        • Toccoa GA

        • 02 Malibu 21' Sunscape/Eagle one-axle, surge brakes trailer

        #4
        Update:
        Both knees are working, now, aided, finally (there was a nurse with bad information which kept me from doing it on the first knee), by my TENS unit (TransEpiduralNerveStimulator) which blocks pain impulses, allowing you to do exercises with far less pain.

        Evidence to that end is that I got into my TENS system in my first week (research showed that even the same day of surgery it was appropriate to use it), and it allowed notably faster recovery. The PTs were amazed...

        I'm wearing it as I type, my left being a January 26 surgery. I *may* be able to ski this summer, but I'm already walking and stair climbing in addition to a full gym retinue.

        So, stay tuned - and if I could ever figure out how to post again, I'd ask about tow vehicles, now that we have a boat under contract!!

        L8R

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