pylon or lifting ring

[tyzac]

I'm new to this site and I'm having a hard time finding the answer to this question- is the lifting ring on the back of the boat (97 nautique) ok to pull skiers? tubers?
I've heard guys say that they have pulled from the rear lifting ring. I thought this ring was only for lifting and not pulling (or shear). These guys have said that pulling two or three tubers from the center pylon is too much. I sure wouldn't think you would want to put that kind of pull on the lifting ring, correct??
Any help with this issue sure would greatly appreciated!

[Andrew]

RE: pylon or lifting ring

it is not recommended....

[Hollywood]

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These guys have said that pulling two or three tubers from the center pylon is too much.

0 is too much.

[8122pbrainard]

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it is not recommended....

Agreed that pulling tubes isn't recommended. Learn to ski or board and do something that will build talent or trade the boat in on a I/O Gayliner for the tubes.

[chris196]

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it is not recommended....

Agreed that pulling tubes isn't recommended. Learn to ski or board and do something that will build talent or trade the boat in on a I/O Gayliner for the tubes.

This is just a stupid response.

Some of us take out friends who have kids. These kids aren't regularly on the water and don't want to learn something. They just want to have fun and tubing is a good way to accomplish this. I pull a tube maybe twice a year in such situations behind my '98 196.

I have used the pylon. A friend of mine has pulled tubes occassionally over the years from the lifting ring of an 80s 2001 and a '97 196. He says no problems. In his younger days, this guy was the Texas state slalom champion, maybe he should trade in his SN for a gayliner.

In case I ever chose to pull from the lifting ring, I took a piece of 2x4 and shaped it to fit between the rod of the lifting ring and the back of the hull. It's not perfect, but I figure it will help distribute some of the backward force to more of the hull. That's essentially what is done on ski eye tows on most I/Os with a backing plate.

[MHayes]

Re: RE: pylon or lifting ring

it is not recommended....

Agreed that pulling tubes isn't recommended. Learn to ski or board and do something that will build talent or trade the boat in on a I/O Gayliner for the tubes.

I agree with chris196 regarding this post! FYI 8122pbrainard, Andrew was making the point that it is not recommended to pull tubes from the lifting ring.

[Red57Bird]

I for one am getting pretty tired of all the comments about pulling tubes with our boats. I have relatives that visit every year and it is the only time they get on the water. It is no fun for them trying to get up on skis/board/surf board. They enjoy tubing and that is what we do. I'm courteous enough to pull them out into the main lake.

Some of the members on this board (and you know who you are) act like if you don't do the water activities that they approve of (i.e. ski/board/surf), then you have no business owning a CC or any other inboard. What if the only boat you could afford was an old bass boat and you loved to wake board behind it. Would that justify a fisherman criticizing you for not fishing? Grow up and get a life.

[rocco]

pylon or lifting ring

Hehehe...I have heard and Heard about pulling from here from there or from wherever...I pulled 4 -5 tubes from the pylon or the lifting ring for about 10 years behind my old 84 ski...Now for 6 years behind my 2000 ski I do the same..NO problems either time...Kids like the tubes and alot of older people also.."To date ,I have not heard of anyone jerking out the pylon or ring......................

[Quinner]

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To answer original question, pulling from the lift ring or pylon should be OK for a moderate, keep the tube upright ride, when you start loading it hard, flipping the tube over and the like, a substantial load can be generated, my personal opinion is you would probably need to put a pretty extreme load to damage anything, good judgement and common sense should be the best advice in that regards.

Do agree with the anti tube statements, tubes happen and they can chop up an entire lake, just not a big fan, would much rather teach a non-skier to become a skier then drag a tube around brainlessly.

[chris196]

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Do agree with the anti tube statements, tubes happen and they can chop up an entire lake, just not a big fan, would much rather teach a non-skier to become a skier then drag a tube around brainlessly.

I can appreciate that and I have not been happy with tubers at times myself.
But, to give you the flip side, yesterday my wife and I were waiting for traffic to settle down at the end of the day so we could make a slalom run. Everything was going as planned except for this one SAN who kept pulling up this guy on a board. He'd go 20 feet and fall again. With all the power turns to get him again, the water was pretty messed up. If he'd have been on a tube they would have just gone on by and been done with it. Not to mention the surfers who really plow the water.
If your real complaint is messing up the water, then for me it's equally tubers, surfers and boarders who mess up the water where I am.

Why can't they all just slalom behind a SN 8-)

[Andrew]

Re: RE: pylon or lifting ring

it is not recommended....

Agreed that pulling tubes isn't recommended. Learn to ski or board and do something that will build talent or trade the boat in on a I/O Gayliner for the tubes.

I agree with chris196 regarding this post! FYI 8122pbrainard, Andrew was making the point that it is not recommended to pull tubes from the lifting ring.

don't be so quick to speak for me..... lol


chris, sounds to me like u need to politely ask the noobs to return to idle speed before they turn around to pick up the rider.....

[chris196]

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chris, sounds to me like u need to politely ask the noobs to return to idle speed before they turn around to pick up the rider.....

It really wasn't that big a deal. We were enjoying the sunset.
Just showing that it's more about the person behind the wheel than what's behind the boat. But, it's a public lake and everyone has a right.

[BigBald]

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I would think that pulling from the "lift" ring would not be a good thing in the long run. But like a lot of other things with Correct Craft, you can probably get by with it because the quality is that good.

And for tubers.....I have more issues with folks that just don't know how to drive the boat. Several weeks ago I had some folks that came within 50 feet of my boat while I was trying to get a new skier going.....luckily on the boom so I could move a bit. It was very unsafe and very scary...not to mention rude. But that person was puling a wakeboarder and it was a Pro-Air Nautique...probably a 2000, 01 or 02....so it was part of our "family"...so to speak. But they were clueless. Power turns to pick up the down wakeboarder. Turning right in front of us to head to shore. Just not smart.

And contrast that with last weekend. I was at a lake that had another boat pulling a tube. It was a Bayliner. That guy was awesome. Just slight jigs and jags as he was traveling down the lake...no major donuts or 90 deg turns across the lake. And when he lost his riders...he idled down, turned slowly and went back to them. He was a very very curtious driver.

Wish more folks were like that.

[MHayes]

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don't be so quick to speak for me..... lol

My bad....that's what I get for assuming! :grin:

[redmondforsale]

I have seen this topic several times on this forum always with the same result. Several people who don't really know saying it is not recommended or should not be done, or from an "engineering point of view" it is not designed for this. So I thought I would just walk out back and look at my 196 and see what Correct Craft has to say about it. See below...