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  • JUST-IN-TIME
    • Sep 2007
    • 293

    • ON YOUR BOAT


    #31
    difference between a car battery and a marine battery
    is the cold cranking amps (CCA)and size of the plates and outter casings
    marine CCA is at 32F
    car is at 0F

    DEEP CYCLE vs CRANKING
    cranking batters are meant to give a short burst of amps
    deep cycle are meant to give low amps for a long period of time

    also deep cycle casings are taller, due to the fact they can go dead and be recharged, do that to a starting battery and u will kill it

    for anybody who owns a boat and only has 1 batt, invest in a switch and another, or at least have a jump pack


    2 good readings
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    http://www.marine-electronics.net/te..._faq/b_faq.htm

    http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm

    HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

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    • JUST-IN-TIME
      • Sep 2007
      • 293

      • ON YOUR BOAT


      #32
      oh
      1 more thing
      with optima batteries, once a cell breaks down it is dead
      unlike flooded batteries which u can replace the water in it

      i also noticed optima need a charge more and lower amps

      HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

      CERTIFIED MARINE/PWC TECHNICIAN
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      • jaybird
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Oct 2008
        • 516

        • North Alabama Lake Weiss


        #33
        I with ya on the extra battery. It’s just such a small expense for the added peace of mind. We chill out in the middle of the lake listing to tunes and with all the extra power demands of ballast pumps, bilge pumps, audio amps and such a single battery just doesn’t cut it anymore.
        2012 Team Ski Nautique ZR409
        2011 Sport Nautique 200
        2008 SANT 230
        2003 Air Nautique 226
        1988 Martinique
        1979 Nautique
        1978 Tique
        1976 Tique (First New Boat)

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        • gride300
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 1356

          • mobile, al


          #34
          i got alot of helpful info from this thread, but are to marine cranking batteries deep cycle as well? I'm confused that if i get a cranking battery on a perko off, 1, 2, both switch w/o an isolater if 1 goes dead i cant start with 2. is that right?

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          • WakeSlayer
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 2069

            • Silver Creek, MN

            • 1968 Mustang

            #35
            as I have learned from this thread: Marine cranking batteries are cranking batteries, not deep cycle. They have extra terminals and a handle.... Functionally, they are the same as auto cranking batteries with a couple little features, and a heftier price tag. Deep cycle batteries are completely different. I will leave the rest to the electrical guys.
            the WakeSlayer
            1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
            1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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            • Hollywood
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Sep 2003
              • 1930

              • WIIL


              #36
              I find it funny the guy who posted the thread is still confused.

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              • gride300
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 1356

                • mobile, al


                #37
                you mean you find it funny i'm still confused? I did alot of reading on the links but i'll just call secc tomorrow.

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                • WakeSlayer
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 2069

                  • Silver Creek, MN

                  • 1968 Mustang

                  #38
                  I think I may be un-confused now.
                  the WakeSlayer
                  1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                  1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                  • jaybird
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 516

                    • North Alabama Lake Weiss


                    #39
                    Can anyone say TO MUCH INFORMATION ! LOL But yes if you have a switch with 1, 2 or both you can switch to both and crank if you kill one.........
                    I think we have exhausted this thread......
                    2012 Team Ski Nautique ZR409
                    2011 Sport Nautique 200
                    2008 SANT 230
                    2003 Air Nautique 226
                    1988 Martinique
                    1979 Nautique
                    1978 Tique
                    1976 Tique (First New Boat)

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                    • JUST-IN-TIME
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 293

                      • ON YOUR BOAT


                      #40
                      Originally posted by gride300
                      i got alot of helpful info from this thread, but are to marine cranking batteries deep cycle as well? I'm confused that if i get a cranking battery on a perko off, 1, 2, both switch w/o an isolater if 1 goes dead i cant start with 2. is that right?
                      only 2 types of batteries

                      CRANKING or DEEP CYCLE, then the marine vs auto

                      DEEP = long drain little amps = stereo
                      CRANKING = short drain ton of amps = starting a motor

                      isolators or crap!!! get an acr switch, blue sea system sells them

                      HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

                      CERTIFIED MARINE/PWC TECHNICIAN
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                      • jaybird
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 516

                        • North Alabama Lake Weiss


                        #41
                        Now guys you know either deep cycle or starter will start you engine fine, if the deep cycle wont start your engine you need a tune up........ And no better money spent than a charging relay if you have two batterys. And Blue Sea also has them too..................
                        I vote we kill this thread
                        2012 Team Ski Nautique ZR409
                        2011 Sport Nautique 200
                        2008 SANT 230
                        2003 Air Nautique 226
                        1988 Martinique
                        1979 Nautique
                        1978 Tique
                        1976 Tique (First New Boat)

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                        • Chris4x4Gill2
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 406

                          • Smith Lake, AL

                          • '89 Ski Nautique 2001

                          #42
                          someone want to explain the difference in an ACR switch VS an Isolator now?

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                          • JUST-IN-TIME
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 293

                            • ON YOUR BOAT


                            #43
                            ACR vs ISOLATER

                            isolater will charge batteries even though they do not need it

                            ACR is an electrical switch, it senses what needs what and sends it to them

                            HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

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                            • hyperwake
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 54

                              • Cincinnati


                              #44
                              So after all this anyone have a recommendation on CCA or CA for an 01 SAN? I need to replace mine also. When I bough the boat it had a Deep Cycle and a Cranking set up with a perko switch. I dont like it and want to get 2 new batterys.

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                              • Andrew
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 891

                                • Tuscaloosa, AL


                                #45
                                Originally posted by jaybird
                                No problem Andrew, you must be Ok if you’re from Alabama and a Nautique fan :-)
                                Its just a bit insulting "everything jaybird said is horribly wrong" after 30 years of electrical engineering design I would like a wee bit of respect.
                                I’m just trying to help a fellow Nautique fan so lets keep this civil and not personal.
                                I just wanted to make it clear to anyone reading that they should never connect 12v batteries in a series circuit when ALL of their electrical components are 12v! Your "helping" could have cost some poor reader quite a bit of money in damaged stereo equipment! Unless my reading comprehension is rusty, you have gone through some sort of double talk throughout the entire thread.... I won't even bother pointing out the errors in that post, because you have already done so in some confusing 'round-about way :???:

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