K&N Oil Filter - Performance Gold?

[GoBig]

Has anyone used a K&N Performance Gold oil filter, p/n HP-3001? This crosses to the Purolator L30001 and the Fram PH8A. It came highly recommended from the guy at the auto store and was about $5 more. It is supposed to remove smaller particulate that your standard filter. Not sure if this will cause any issues or if this is worth the extra money. At any rate, just thought I'd check to see if anyone has used this filter. Plan on changing my oil tomorrow. I'm running the EX330.

Cheers!

[SuperSquirt]

RE: K&N Oil Filter - Performance Gold?

I have been using K&N filters on all my cars and in my boat for years. They are expensive, but they very good quality and easy to take off.

[2004196]

K&N

Ditto to SuperSquirt, used only K&N for cars, truck and boat since new, 10+ yrs and feel they are worth the extra few bucks.

[DanielC]

RE: K&N

At least it is not a Fram filter.
The guy at the auto parts store recommended it BECAUSE HE WILL MAKE MORE PROFIT OFF YOU !
Have you not read any of the other posts on this board about oil filters?
Aftermarket filter manufacturers only care about making a profit on what they sell. They are not concerned about making sure your engine lasts as long as it should. They have not spent literally millions of dollars testing oil filters, like the big three auto manufacturers have. Use OEM filters.
Because the remote oil filter mounts long ago settled on using the Ford standard for remote spin on filters, that is your choice.
Use the Motorcraft FL1-A. You can get them at Walmart, probably for less than 4 dollars. The last batch of Motorcraft oil filters had "Made in USA" on them. If you do not want to use the Motorcraft filter, at least look for one made here in the States.

[GoBig]

RE: K&N

I'm positive the dude at Kragen doesn't make a dime off of the recommendation. I have K&N air filters in my car and truck and swear by them. I've never used a K&N oil filter though. They are Made in the USA and the K&N puts out quality products. I have always used OEM filters on my boats but wanted to know specifically if anyone had used a K&N in a marine application. For an extra $5, I'll go with K&N given my experience with their other products unless someone has a real reason not to. Thanks guys for the feedback...good to know we're good to go.

[DanielC]

K&N air filters flow more air. They also flow more dirt. That is how they get the air flow higher. The oil on a K&N filter is not good for the air flow sensor in your trucks intake system.
The dude at Kragen does not directly make money off the sales. He is paid hourly. When his boss notices he has a higher sales volume, of product that has a higher markup, he will be rewarded by not getting layed off, getting merit or performance raises sooner, or maybe even getting a Christmas bonus. He might get more desirable hours, or a more desirable vacation time. There are many ways to reward a high performing employee

[maxpower220]

I have seen examples (proof) of the K&N air filter working better (flowing more air) . However, I have never seen any proof that the oil filter is better than OEM or Fram/Puralator/etc. IMO, it is not worth the extra $5 every oil change. The air filter lasts the life of the vehicle, but the oil filter changes just as often as the other brands.

[Mikeski]

I buy the nice black Wix 51515's by the case off e-bay. Wix, AC Delco, Sierra, or NAPA are the only filters you will see on my boat. I have the Wix for all my cars and trucks.

[8122pbrainard]

K&N air filters flow more air. They also flow more dirt. That is how they get the air flow higher. The oil on a K&N filter is not good for the air flow sensor in your trucks intake system.
The dude at Kragen does not directly make money off the sales. He is paid hourly. When his boss notices he has a higher sales volume, of product that has a higher markup, he will be rewarded by not getting layed off, getting merit or performance raises sooner, or maybe even getting a Christmas bonus. He might get more desirable hours, or a more desirable vacation time. There are many ways to reward a high performing employee

Flowing more air across a filter media with the same static pressure/suction requires reducing the static pressure drop of that media. Reducing it can be done two ways. Opening up the size of the particle filtering that Daniel has mentioned or increasing the sq. in. of the surface so the CFM is less per each sq. in. If the K&N filters are getting more air flow by opening up the size of the particulate filtering, then it sure sounds like a marketing scam. BTW, ASHRAY spec rating of particulate size is when the filter media is 50% clogged! If you drive dusty roads, you may not want to change (or clean) that filter as often!

Max,
If K&N filters less particulate, then you're statement "I have seen examples (proof) of the K&N air filter working better (flowing more air)" is backwards! It's supposed to be a a filter.

Daniel is right on track with the rewards the salesperson gets by selling the higher priced parts.

[BSBell]

Motorcraft makes the best oil filters

[gride300]

are we talkin boats or cars here? kn makes killer cold air intakes and you can tell a difference with their oil filters. as far as boat goes just use oem

[SuperSquirt]

Here is a pic of my old 96 Ski with a KN extreme air top on the carburetor (replacing the stock flame arrestor). This added a huge increase in HP and made the engine sound a lot like a car with cold air intake. I loved the look and function of this air filter as well as the oil filters.....Besides KN oil filters have "nuts" so they say

[bchesley]

g 300 how can you see a difference in their oil filter? K&N is just a huge marketing plan like Fram.

I know that this subject has been beaten to death but a motorcraft or a wix filter are the only ones that will ever be on my boat. There are plenty of test on the internet on what filter perform best and whose are cheap and prone to failure. Your best bet is to investigate for yourself.

[SuperSquirt]

I agree, this thread has been beaten up pretty bad since oil filters come and go pretty frequently, and all work essentially the same. I think what it really boils down to is brand image, what we choose to put on our motors is no different than what logo we wear on our golf shirts.

[DanielC]

How does a K&N oil soaked air filter work as a flame arrestor? Is it USCG approved?