1999 Super Sport Rear Hatch Lift/Motor/Actuator

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  • skiking
    • Jun 2007
    • 118

    • TX


    1999 Super Sport Rear Hatch Lift/Motor/Actuator

    My rear hatch actuator has suddenly stopped going down. The hatch goes up fine, but when I switch it to the down position I just hear a sort of electric buzz from the actuator motor. So it doesn't sound like a relay issue. More of a motor issue. Guess 10 years is asking a lot.

    I have read through past posts and could not find a similar situation.

    I called my dealer and they want $1300 for a new lift!!! So I am hoping it is something that can be fixed. Like replacing just the actuator motor or gear. Open to suggestions for tracking the issue down.

    Also, seen it asked before. But, has anyone upgraded to a 2001 3 piece back deck?

    Thanks!
    1999 Super Sport Nautique
    PerfectPass Wakeboard Pro
    100amp Alternator Upgrade and 2 - Optima Blue Tops
    Wetsounds, JL Audio, Alpine sound system
    3-Jabsco Ballast Puppies
    1- Fly High Center Sack 650lbs and 2 - Fly High Rear 750lbs

    Ballast Install - http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...allast-Install
  • AuMDLST
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Apr 2007
    • 870

    • Orlando, FL (Butler Chain)


    #2
    RE: 1999 Super Sport Rear Hatch Lift/Motor/Actuator

    Is there any indication of manufacturer or part number? I would imagine that CC is purchasing the item from a supplier which you may be able to track down and get outside of the dealer.
    2006 SANTE 210 (Pending Sale)
    2005 206 TE (Previous)
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    • NautiqueJeff
      A d m i n i s t r a t o r
      • Mar 2002
      • 16517
      • Lake Norman

      • Mooresville, NC

      • 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique

      #3
      RE: 1999 Super Sport Rear Hatch Lift/Motor/Actuator

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      • WakeSlayer
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 2069

        • Silver Creek, MN

        • 1968 Mustang

        #4
        RE: 1999 Super Sport Rear Hatch Lift/Motor/Actuator

        I thought I had a failed actuator last year that turned out to just be a fuse. We referred to that repair as the $0.12 solution to the $120 solution to the $1200 problem.

        the $120 solution to the $1200 problem:

        http://www.firgelliauto.com/product_...;products_id=8

        You need to measure the stroke and get the correct attachment point style.


        Incidentally, the actuator in my 92 BFN Vdrive failed completely, and I just simply never replaced it. I would lift and drop the cover manually. Correct Craft is just plain stealing from you at $1300.
        the WakeSlayer
        1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
        1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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        • skiking
          • Jun 2007
          • 118

          • TX


          #5
          Here is a picture of the actuator motor. Looks like a Dana/Borg/Warner product. States that it is a DM12 Series actuator.

          Jeff, always good to know we have the discounts when we need them! But, for $1300. I might just pay one of the neighbors kids to live in the engine compartment and raise the hatch every time I switch on a signal light. Yellow_Flash_Colorz:
          1999 Super Sport Nautique
          PerfectPass Wakeboard Pro
          100amp Alternator Upgrade and 2 - Optima Blue Tops
          Wetsounds, JL Audio, Alpine sound system
          3-Jabsco Ballast Puppies
          1- Fly High Center Sack 650lbs and 2 - Fly High Rear 750lbs

          Ballast Install - http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...allast-Install

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          • skiking
            • Jun 2007
            • 118

            • TX


            #6
            Actuator.
            Attached Files
            1999 Super Sport Nautique
            PerfectPass Wakeboard Pro
            100amp Alternator Upgrade and 2 - Optima Blue Tops
            Wetsounds, JL Audio, Alpine sound system
            3-Jabsco Ballast Puppies
            1- Fly High Center Sack 650lbs and 2 - Fly High Rear 750lbs

            Ballast Install - http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...allast-Install

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            • polkaking27
              • Jan 2005
              • 104



              #7
              have you ever considered just putting a regular gas strut on there. That way you wouldn't have to rely on battery power to get to your engine (and battery for that matter)

              That would be the cheapest thing I can think of, next to a fuse
              if con is the opposite of pro, is congress the opposite of progress???

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              • skiking
                • Jun 2007
                • 118

                • TX


                #8
                WakeSlayer,

                That is a great alternative!
                1999 Super Sport Nautique
                PerfectPass Wakeboard Pro
                100amp Alternator Upgrade and 2 - Optima Blue Tops
                Wetsounds, JL Audio, Alpine sound system
                3-Jabsco Ballast Puppies
                1- Fly High Center Sack 650lbs and 2 - Fly High Rear 750lbs

                Ballast Install - http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...allast-Install

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                • skiking
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 118

                  • TX


                  #9
                  Polkaking27,

                  I would really like to upgrade to the 2001 setup. The big hatch is a pain when you have a lot of people/noise. Getting people to move to get buoys, jackets, or anything else in the engine compartment is a pain. Plus, the engine is exposed every time you lift the hatch. And, yes, before someone says it, I shut off the engine. Just don't like the whole one solid back hatch thing in general.

                  But, I love my boat and can't seem to part with it for a newer model/cost. And my 1999 has been very good to me!
                  1999 Super Sport Nautique
                  PerfectPass Wakeboard Pro
                  100amp Alternator Upgrade and 2 - Optima Blue Tops
                  Wetsounds, JL Audio, Alpine sound system
                  3-Jabsco Ballast Puppies
                  1- Fly High Center Sack 650lbs and 2 - Fly High Rear 750lbs

                  Ballast Install - http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...allast-Install

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                  • WakeSlayer
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 2069

                    • Silver Creek, MN

                    • 1968 Mustang

                    #10
                    I think you would spend a bunch of dough and have a fair amount of work to convert your hatch to a 3way. Not sure it is worth it. At that point you would just use gas shocks, though.
                    Has anyone done a conversion?
                    the WakeSlayer
                    1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                    1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                    • Sbt3
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 164

                      • Okauchee Wisconsin


                      #11
                      I've got one out of a 97 supersport which should be the same that I'd sell you. I took mine out because it takes up valuable ballast room I kept it incase I ever sell the boat but I don't see that happening anytime soon. I'll pm you with my email and we can figure out details if you want.

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                      • DavidF
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 611

                        • Austin, TX


                        #12
                        Ok, I had to replace the switch for the actuator on my '99 NSS when I bought it last year. So, my thinking is that maybe the switch is shorting out in the "close" position only. You know, maybe energizing "close" and "open" signals at the same time. I can see how this would make the motor buzz. I cannot see how the actuator would fail in only one direction.

                        The switch is hard to find (DPDT toggle). I got mine at Grainger (1XWT8). Problem is the Grainger sourced switch had a slightly shorter neck, so I had to carve out a bit of the back of the gunnel so I could get the nut in place. The switch was $12.01. My local CC dealer was stumped on the switch, or maybe I was just in a hurry to get it.

                        Also, the factory switch has 6 spade terminals and 6 wires. Most of the DPDT toggles you might find have 5.

                        FWIW: It appears that my bro-in-law's MC 230 has the same actuator. Maybe MC sells it cheaper.

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                        • WakeSlayer
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 2069

                          • Silver Creek, MN

                          • 1968 Mustang

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DavidF
                          I cannot see how the actuator would fail in only one direction.
                          Good point, David !! The one in my BFN just failed altogether.

                          This could be the $12 solution to the $1200 problem.
                          the WakeSlayer
                          1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                          1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                          • skiking
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 118

                            • TX


                            #14
                            A friend of mine has a large motor pool at his company that supports heavy equipment. They know actuators inside and out. I am having them test it. If it is good I will work my way back through the relays and switch. I'll keep you posted.
                            1999 Super Sport Nautique
                            PerfectPass Wakeboard Pro
                            100amp Alternator Upgrade and 2 - Optima Blue Tops
                            Wetsounds, JL Audio, Alpine sound system
                            3-Jabsco Ballast Puppies
                            1- Fly High Center Sack 650lbs and 2 - Fly High Rear 750lbs

                            Ballast Install - http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...allast-Install

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                            • DavidF
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 611

                              • Austin, TX


                              #15
                              No relays, just a switch.

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