343 Excalibur Oil Change?

[SuperSquirt]

I am trying to change the oil in my 210 with the 343 excalibur motor, and I can't get the oil to drain! I ran the motor for 25 minutes to warm up the oil, and then fed the drain tube through the bottom of the boat and nothing. I then tried sucking it out with a drill pump and then a Pela pump, and only got around 2.5 quarts or so out.

What is the trick to get the darn oil out? I opened everything up to let it breathe better, but I'm starting to get pissed. I've changed the oil in my old inboard and all my cars for years, and this is my first try with the 343.

Any tips?

Also, how much pressure should I have at engine idle?
How many quarts will it hold?

[AirTool]

RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

25 minutes at idle might not warm your oil. Did you load it up for 25 or at idle with hose water?

Make sure your hose is down on the bilge. On my 206, you have to carefully fish the hose so that there is not a hump that would prevent the oil to drain.

I've changed mine hot and about 4 qts will come out in an hour or so. I prefer to let it drain overnight into an empty container with graduations like a 5g oil container I buy my truck oil in. Provided I was happy with the level before the change. I put back whatever drained out plus prime the oil filter. Usually I get 4.25 or so out of the pan. I've NEVER been able to put a full 5qts in after an oil change.

It is possible that your hose is plugged up ....but probably not.

There are several posts on oil changes and slow draining oil. Here is one:

http://www.planetnautique.com/index....amp;highlight=

[GoBig]

RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

I use the Moeller extractor on my EX343. Great product. It is a bit of a trick to get the hose all the way to the bottom of the drain pan. But once you figure out that last little twist, you should get a little over 4 quarts out. The Moeller extractor is awesome. You pump it about 5 times, it creates a vacuum and does the rest. Takes about 10-15 minutes for it to pull everything out. I cap it off, take it to Kragen and dump it in their recycler. Couldn't be any easier. Also, another note, I only run my boat for about 10 minutes before I start the drain. The Moeller is that good. Here is a link but search around a bit. You could probably get a better deal somewhere...

http://www.boatersoutlet.com/moelleroilextractor.aspx

[SuperSquirt]

RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

I was fortunate enough to go out on the lake today and cruise around for a few hours. I had put 4 quarts of oil in after draining it yesterday, and it seemed to be fine today. I had oil pressure near 70 at high speed and 40 at idle, but my dipstick showed that I needed to add some more? Doesn't make sense, but I'm going to quit worrying about it now. Thanks for the help.

[AirTool]

Re: RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

I was fortunate enough to go out on the lake today and cruise around for a few hours. I had put 4 quarts of oil in after draining it yesterday, and it seemed to be fine today. I had oil pressure near 70 at high speed and 40 at idle, but my dipstick showed that I needed to add some more? Doesn't make sense, but I'm going to quit worrying about it now. Thanks for the help.

70 ! ? what kind of oil are you using?

[SuperSquirt]

RE: Re: RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

Shell Rotella 15W-40, do you think that is too high of pressure?

[AirTool]

RE: Re: RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

That does sound too high....but I can't say I've paid attention to my cold pressure. Maybe I'll see it in the next week or so and report back.

[contour]

RE: Re: RE: 343 Excalibur Oil Change?

I've been using a small centrifical air pump, (like the type you would use to fill an air mattress) to push the oil out of the engine. I insert the end into the rubber hose that I remove from the air cleaner to the tappet cover. By doing this, it slightly pressurizes the inside of the engine, forcing the oil out the long restrictive hose

[Kevin_B]

I just a bought a 220 with the EX343 and I can’t seem to fish the hose to the drain plug hole. This is how I always drained my Sport, am I approaching this wrong?

I don’t see how it could be done any other way. Any pointers on the entire process would be greatly appreciated.



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[Infinity]

Use an extractor pump hooked to oil drain hose and pump it out. Takes about 10mins to remove the oil that way.
I use the small hose on extractor, put it inside the oil drain hose and push it up inside. With warm oil (run boat 10-15mins), it comes out easily and does not take long (do NOT recommend putting the hose inside the dipstick tube, several people have gotten the oil hose stuck in the engine doing it that way).

This is the oil extractor I use:
https://www.harborfreight.com/23-gal...tor-62643.html

[Infinity]

Congrats on the new boat!
Use an extractor pump hooked to oil drain hose and pump it out. Takes about 10mins to remove the oil that way.
I use the small hose on extractor, put it inside the oil drain hose and push it up inside. With warm oil (run boat 10-15mins), it comes out easily and does not take long (do NOT recommend putting the hose inside the dipstick tube, several people have gotten the oil hose stuck in the engine doing it that way).

This is the oil extractor I use:
https://www.harborfreight.com/23-gal...tor-62643.html

[azeus17]

I do the same as above. I wish I would have discovered the extractor earlier! Just warm it up a bit, stick the extractor hose down the engine drain hose and pump it up. No mess and you don't have to stand on your head trying to fish the drain hose through the hull.

[ZachD]

Same as above. Extractors are great. The drain hose is not pressurized so thumb tightening it works and clipping it one of the black hoses afterwards does the trick. Makes it easily accessible for next time.


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[Beach-TJ]

Make sure the boat is level. When my boat is on the trailer and sitting on level ground I need to place a 4x4 under the Jack and max the Jack out to get the boat level ( same as sitting in water ).
Once level the oil will drain in about an hr. though I usually let it drain over night.
Always check your oil level with the boat free floating, no ballast, including no people, besides yourself.