04 san 210 ballast problem help?

[surferbum21]

http://www.planetnautique.com/Correc...Manuals/sb.pdf

port and sb ballasts automatically filling up. above is service announcement on it. I thought it was a recall and took it in. just found out that it isn't a recall or under warranty. how hard of a job is this? I winterize and dewinterize my boat and can do minor mechanical repairs. Never done something like this so wanted to make sure before I jumped into it.

[gride300]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

there is a recall on the valves.

[surferbum21]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

that's what i thought. but even nautique is saying it's a "service announcement" and boatowners have a choice as to fix it or not. i think if it was fixed before warranty expiration it would have been free but not now. I think it's crap b/c it's a faulty part. i'm second owner and i'm sure warranty is up. i

[gride300]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

i had a friend recently calla bout this and they gave him some run around, but it says they will reimburse on the recall notice so i dont see why they dont stock the parts. when i bought my bought last year from the old secc they took care of all 3 no problem no $. and i had no warranty. i agree it is a faulty part and either cc needs to fix it or the company they got the parts from.c'mon C.C. step up here. my friend bought the boat new from ski club, they closed. the things have been broken forever. he tried faxing the paperwork but to no avail.

[core-rider]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

I got the valves directly from CC two years ago at no charge and did the replacement myself. It takes longer to get to them than it will to replace the valves. Your local dealer should be able to get you the parts at no charge and you can replace them. It's just a few hose clamps and retaining screws. The center ballast tank valve is fairly easy to replace, but the rear valves are harder to access. You will have to remove the rear seat to make them easier to access. Then just follow the service bulletin instructions for the new valves. Good luck with it.

[WakeSlayer]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

Or just cut them out and put in a new system. All those old systems, in my opinion, are not good enough to repair. Get Jabsco pumps and eliminate the valves altogether. your fill and drain speeds will increase dramatically, and you will be a lot happier in the long run.

[jaybird]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

Its a simple job, sure you could upgrade to the new valves if your ready to spend big bucks and lots of time but you can order the valves for less that $30.00 each (http://www.thmarine.com/product.cfm?PRID=68) and it took me less than one hours to change them all, (three in my 226). I have had no problems since the change. The new systems are great but you talking $90.00 versus $700-800 and 1 hour versus 6-10 hours. You must keep in mind your exsisting electrical system will not handle the amps for the new impeller pumps thus you must rework the electrical system and add relays if you make the upgrade to the new pumps. If it were me I would just replace the valves. It all depends on how deep your pockets are and how long before you may trade the boat.

[jaybird]

RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

I meant "sure you could upgrade to the new pumps if your ready to spend big bucks"

My mistake.

[WakeSlayer]

Re: RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

You must keep in mind your exsisting electrical system will not handle the amps for the new impeller pumps thus you must rework the electrical system and add relays if you make the upgrade to the new pumps.

?? I don't get this statement. I did none of that and have had zero issues. I did have an existing second battery. And I did swap to the 100A alternator, but just to the same alternator I believe is stock on the 2004. This had nothing specifically to do with the ballast system though. What would make you have to rework anything or add relays?

mike

[jaybird]

RE: Re: RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

Mike,

Suferbum has a 04, thus he has DSS switching. You may not have the DSS switching on your 99, I don’t know when this was first used but I have it on my 03. The ballast buttons on his dash don’t actually turn the pumps on and off but send a digital signal to operate the DSS box relays which are sized for the amps of the existing centrifugal ballast pumps. The new ballast puppies pull at least double the amps. The new DSS systems are great but you must be careful since the relays are in a sealed box the maximum amps cannot be increased so what most people I have talked with are doing is connecting a relay to the DSS output and then the amps of the pump do not come from the DSS. This is only an issue on the boats with DSS (Digital Switching Systems) I’m not sure when this was first used.

Mike,
If you do have DSS and you added the new pumps thats good to know but it was my understnading the DSS would not handel the amps and would trip the breakers. Let me know for future referance. If the DSS will handel the amps I may upgrade down the road. Which ballast puppy did you add? Some pull more amps that others. I hope I'm wrong but pretty sure I'm not.

Anyone know when the DSS system was first introduced and do all boats have it?

[WakeSlayer]

RE: Re: RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

I get it now. No, I have the older style electrical system. I still think you could just bypass all that and straight wire it, though. My ballast system has nothing whatsoever connected to my dash switches. Just batteries to switch, to pumps. I have a friend who is having a system put in his 05 SV211 right now and simply assumed it was being put in like mine. Probably worth mentioning this thread to him and his installer. Quickly.

thanks for the clarification, Jaybird.

[jaybird]

No problem Mike,

The old hard wired switches is all I ever had on my previous Correct Crafts until I got my 03 226 AN. I went through a learning curve myself. The new systems have advantages and down falls.

[surferbum21]

Re: RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

i had a friend recently calla bout this and they gave him some run around, but it says they will reimburse on the recall notice so i dont see why they dont stock the parts. when i bought my bought last year from the old secc they took care of all 3 no problem no $. and i had no warranty. i agree it is a faulty part and either cc needs to fix it or the company they got the parts from.c'mon C.C. step up here. my friend bought the boat new from ski club, they closed. the things have been broken forever. he tried faxing the paperwork but to no avail.

so if correct craft is supposed to pay for this why did they tell me that this was service announcement and not recall and I have to pay for it? I'm confused...I did look over the "announcement" and it does say the dealer would be reimbursed for time and parts obviously shipped for free. shoudl i call CC up and bitch em out? Boat & RV world here in Oklahoma has had my boat for 12 weeks for this and are just now telling me this.

[jaybird]

RE: Re: RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

I am only guessing but I bet this must be covered before 3 years is up by the dealer if you expect CC to cover the charges. That time has passed on this particular service announcement.

[gride300]

RE: Re: RE: 04 san 210 ballast problem help?

cc told the tech working on my friends 05(not a dealer) that it wasn't a recall, but alot of customers got fed up w/ them breaking and designed a fix. anyone back this up?