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  • EchoLodge
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2004
    • 616

    • Huntington Beach, CA

    • 99 Super Sport

    01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

    The boat has around 600 hours on it. This weekend I was driving at 40 mph for about 10 minutes when the engine went dead. All the gauges were within normal range. I checked both the fuel cell and fuel rail by depressing the valves. Gas was present. Still would not start (engine would crank). I checked all the breakers and knocked on the two relays under the engine by the 3 breakers. None appeared to have been popped. About 5 minutes into my tow home, I was able to restart the engine. The water was calm and the stereo was on and loud at the time (not that it should matter). Any ideas?
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  • ffmedic74
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2003
    • 835

    • Lexington, KY


    #2
    RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

    If your sure its not fuel then it theoretically should be a spark issue.

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    • EchoLodge
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jan 2004
      • 616

      • Huntington Beach, CA

      • 99 Super Sport

      #3
      RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

      Thats what I am thinking. I have a buddy that has a Tige with the merc engine. He carries relays that he has to replace almost yearly. I don't think PCM has the same issue.
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      • BKinSoCal
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Sep 2008
        • 507
        • Colorado River - Parker Strip

        • Prescott, AZ

        • 2004 Air Nautique 216 Team 2005 SANTE 210 2008 SAN 230

        #4
        RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

        Sorry to hear about your boat.

        I was looking at your screen name and where you live. Do you go to/have a place at Echo Lodge? I'm asking because that's where out place is...UL13.

        Brian
        BKinSoCal - Brian
        '08 SANTE 230 - Current
        '05 SANTE - Sold '10
        '04 216 TE - Sold in '05

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        • EchoLodge
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jan 2004
          • 616

          • Huntington Beach, CA

          • 99 Super Sport

          #5
          Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

          Originally posted by BKinSoCal
          Sorry to hear about your boat.

          I was looking at your screen name and where you live. Do you go to/have a place at Echo Lodge? I'm asking because that's where out place is...UL13.

          Brian
          That's me. B27. I see your boat out there a lot. Also run past your mobile in the mornings.

          Eric
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          • BKinSoCal
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Sep 2008
            • 507
            • Colorado River - Parker Strip

            • Prescott, AZ

            • 2004 Air Nautique 216 Team 2005 SANTE 210 2008 SAN 230

            #6
            Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

            Originally posted by EchoLodge
            Originally posted by BKinSoCal
            Sorry to hear about your boat.

            I was looking at your screen name and where you live. Do you go to/have a place at Echo Lodge? I'm asking because that's where out place is...UL13.

            Brian
            That's me. B27. I see your boat out there a lot. Also run past your mobile in the mornings.

            Eric
            At least someone is running by my place. I'm typically riding in the morning...only time we can get good water.

            We'll need to hook up next time we're both down there at the same time.

            See you soon.

            Brian
            BKinSoCal - Brian
            '08 SANTE 230 - Current
            '05 SANTE - Sold '10
            '04 216 TE - Sold in '05

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            • EchoLodge
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jan 2004
              • 616

              • Huntington Beach, CA

              • 99 Super Sport

              #7
              RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

              Start Hydrofoiling... Then you can ski in the bad water too!

              www.foilforum.com
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              • DanielC
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 2669

                • West Linn OR

                • 1997 Ski Nautique

                #8
                RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

                Do this primary ignition system test:
                http://planetnautique.com/index.php?...=ignition+test
                Do this fuel pressure test:
                http://planetnautique.com/index.php?...=fuel+pressure
                That should narrow down your engine problems a lot.

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                • EchoLodge
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 616

                  • Huntington Beach, CA

                  • 99 Super Sport

                  #9
                  Re: RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

                  Originally posted by DanielC
                  Do this primary ignition system test:
                  http://planetnautique.com/index.php?...=ignition+test
                  Do this fuel pressure test:
                  http://planetnautique.com/index.php?...=fuel+pressure
                  That should narrow down your engine problems a lot.
                  Thanks. Do the relays below the breakers in the second picture of the fuel pressure link control the fuel pump?
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                  • DanielC
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2669

                    • West Linn OR

                    • 1997 Ski Nautique

                    #10
                    RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

                    One of the relays supplies power to the ignition system, the engine's computer, and the coil of the fuel pump relay. The other relay supplies power to the two fuel pumps.
                    Both of the "cube" or "Bosch" relays have power applied at pin 30 of each relay, all the time the battery is connected.
                    The key applies power to the ignition/computer relay coil at pin 86 and the coil is always grounded through pin 85.
                    Power is then applied to pin 86 of the fuel pump relay. When the engine computer decides it needs to turn the fuel pumps on, the computer grounds pin 85, turning the fuel pumps on.

                    You can download the GT-40 diagnostic manual from the download section of this site.

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                    • Quinner
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 2246

                      • Unknown

                      • Correct Crafts

                      #11
                      RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

                      Did you check your lanyard? That got me once after my buddy towed me in and we were on the trailer noticed it was not fully engaged.

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                      • EchoLodge
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 616

                        • Huntington Beach, CA

                        • 99 Super Sport

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

                        Originally posted by Daniel
                        One of the relays supplies power to the ignition system, the engine's computer, and the coil of the fuel pump relay. The other relay supplies power to the two fuel pumps.
                        Both of the "cube" or "Bosch" relays have power applied at pin 30 of each relay, all the time the battery is connected.
                        The key applies power to the ignition/computer relay coil at pin 86 and the coil is always grounded through pin 85.
                        Power is then applied to pin 86 of the fuel pump relay. When the engine computer decides it needs to turn the fuel pumps on, the computer grounds pin 85, turning the fuel pumps on.

                        You can download the GT-40 diagnostic manual from the download section of this site.
                        Good info. Do you know the napa part number? I might carry some as spares.
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                        • EchoLodge
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 616

                          • Huntington Beach, CA

                          • 99 Super Sport

                          #13
                          Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: 01 Air Nautique Died Suddenly

                          Originally posted by Quinner
                          Did you check your lanyard? That got me once after my buddy towed me in and we were on the trailer noticed it was not fully engaged.
                          Another good thing to check. I was able to get it restarted w/o messing with it. It was a hot day and the boat was running close to wot for 15 mins. With the engine cover up and me messing with everything I could think of I am wondering if the relays cooled and came back to life.
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                          • EchoLodge
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 616

                            • Huntington Beach, CA

                            • 99 Super Sport

                            #14
                            Relay

                            http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=R130011

                            http://www.planetnautique.com/index....c&p=118927
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