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  • gschmieler
    • Dec 2008
    • 48

    • chapin sc


    boat won't respond to key pad

    When the toggle is in the down position the light is on for the bilge pump. When I move the toggle to the upper position I don't get any power to the key pad and can't enter my code on my 08 boat. This boat also lost all power the other day at 30 mph. Toggle was reset and then worked fine the rest of the day. Any suggestions???
  • OKWAKEBDR
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2005
    • 750

    • Lakefront

    • 2017 Super Air Nautique G23

    #2
    RE: boat won

    http://www.planetnautique.com/index....amp;highlight=

    Had the same problem on mine a few months ago...

    Check the connection of the wire to the toggle switch on the back side.
    Current: 2017 G23
    Previous: 2012 210 TE (former PN boat), 2005 210 TE, 2001 X-Star

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    • AirTool
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 4049

      • Katy, Texas


      #3
      RE: boat won

      Several of us have had to replace the toggle. You can test it with a volt meter. If it shows good, wiggle the connector around....it might then show bad.

      If you know the one side is good, reverse the load sides (switch the wires on the outside connectors...the middle connector is hot) and see what happens. Note the connector position is opposite the toggle i.e. up position is down connector.

      I believe the switch is Blue Sea 4152 WeatherDeck Toggle Switch. (Please double check model number.) I'm trying to find a better quality switch so it might last longer. The connector failed "mechanically". It could see it was loose inside the housing.

      http://www.keenzo.com/zoom.asp?zoom=1197059

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      • AirTool
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 4049

        • Katy, Texas


        #4
        RE: boat won

        Has anyone obtained a new switch from a dealer within the past year or so? If so, is it still a Carling brand? ...or different?

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        • OKWAKEBDR
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • May 2005
          • 750

          • Lakefront

          • 2017 Super Air Nautique G23

          #5
          RE: boat won

          Not sure...I'll try to remember to look tonight...

          I do know that the new toggle looks different than the old one.
          Current: 2017 G23
          Previous: 2012 210 TE (former PN boat), 2005 210 TE, 2001 X-Star

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          • gschmieler
            • Dec 2008
            • 48

            • chapin sc


            #6
            RE: boat won

            I appreciate the reponses. I am bringing the boat in for some other warantee tomorrow. It was just a cold swim pushing the boat this morning in the rain to get it on the trailer. I hope it is just in the toggle as up until now has been an intermittent problem. Also could the loss of all power at 30 mph still be assosciated with the toggle??

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            • AirTool
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 4049

              • Katy, Texas


              #7
              Re: RE: boat won

              Originally posted by gschmieler
              Also could the loss of all power at 30 mph still be assosciated with the toggle??
              ABSOLUTELY YES.

              Mine was dead twice. Once in the driveway after a rain (coincidence) and once at the gas station prior to a big trip. Towed it over to an auto parts store to borrow a volt meter. They didn't have a loaner but offered to check my battery....that would display the voltage. The clerk checked the battery and the voltage was low 12 something....can't remember. Anyway, he declared it bad. I thought that maybe the voltage was too low to kick on the keypad which is a known issue. But 12 something seemed high enough. I wanted to confirm what was wrong before I bought a battery. I suspected the switch....perhaps corroded on the inside from water. So I dragged it home and put it on the charger to get 13+ volts. Stilll nothing. I checked the switch and that was it. I charged the battery and had it checked at another shop and it was good.

              That day it was safety first and I canceled the trip to look for a switch....dealer didn't have it. I should have just swapped the connections and been on my way. A glassy Saturday was lost forever.

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              • OKWAKEBDR
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • May 2005
                • 750

                • Lakefront

                • 2017 Super Air Nautique G23

                #8
                RE: Re: RE: boat won

                That is exactly the way mine was before it broke completely...just intermittent. Occassionally it would lose power (usually just for a second - the boat wouldn't even die). Finally, I hit another boat wake hard enough that the post on the back side of the toggle switch broke completely.
                Current: 2017 G23
                Previous: 2012 210 TE (former PN boat), 2005 210 TE, 2001 X-Star

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                • WakeSlayer
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 2069

                  • Silver Creek, MN

                  • 1968 Mustang

                  #9
                  RE: Re: RE: boat won

                  Everyone who has one of these should just get a spare. It would rescue a lot of weekends.
                  the WakeSlayer
                  1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                  1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                  • AirTool
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4049

                    • Katy, Texas


                    #10
                    Originally posted by WakeSlayer View Post
                    Everyone who has one of these should just get a spare. It would rescue a lot of weekends.
                    Has anyone found a quality toggle switch that is not made in China?

                    I'm still running a nice off-on switch with the bilge pump breaker off...but that brand doesn't have on-off-on.

                    The Deep Blue (or whatever) is the same mfg as from the CC factory. Anyone buy a replacement switch from the dealer lately? What brand was stamped on the side?

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                    • rabbit
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 37



                      #11
                      I got a 50 amp on-off-on switch from Napa (sorry cant remember the part number) and have not had a problem since...mine was intermittent also.

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                      • AirTool
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4049

                        • Katy, Texas


                        #12
                        Originally posted by rabbit View Post
                        I got a 50 amp on-off-on switch from Napa (sorry cant remember the part number) and have not had a problem since...mine was intermittent also.
                        good idea....I'll check the buyer's guide of some auto part mfg's and see what they have.

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                        • ag4ever
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1180



                          #13
                          I keep three jumper wires in my boat just in case this problem happens. I jump the relays on the engine. One is the fuel pump and one is the engine computer the last one is the starter and only gets jumped momentarily. This saved me one day I was near a spillway and the wires came off the switch. I was able to hot wire the boat and get to a safe place to fix it.

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                          • AirTool
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4049

                            • Katy, Texas


                            #14
                            Toggle Switch Replacement

                            Originally posted by AirTool View Post
                            Has anyone found a quality toggle switch that is not made in China?

                            The Deep Blue (or whatever) is the same mfg as from the CC factory. Anyone buy a replacement switch from the dealer lately? What brand was stamped on the side?
                            Okay - I figured this out but never posted an update. For simplicity....bullet form:

                            1. I'm not bashing CC, just the company that provides the toggle switch. Clearly there is a problem. There are too many failures here. My failure was the mechanical connection inside the switch which is uunacceptable for such few cycles. It is not like the switch gets flipped a thousand times a day.

                            2. I refused to buy the same brand. (David @ White Lake - please forgive me.)

                            3. I found this one that turned out to be a nice switch. The site says made in USA but it is not. I can't remember where, but I think it is Mexico. It was NOT China and it was not the "Carling" sp? switch.

                            mfg - Cole Hersee 5586 available here:

                            http://www.elecdirect.com/product.aspx?id=12484

                            4. I also installed one of these rubber boots to keep the water out:
                            (This boot will likely fit on your existing switch.)

                            mfg - Cole Hersee 81264-07 (yellow)

                            http://www.elecdirect.com/product.aspx?id=13426

                            5. Here is another choice:

                            mfg - Cole Hersee 81255 half boot

                            http://www.elecdirect.com/product.aspx?id=13407

                            6. If you foul up the decal around the panel (like I did), don't worry. David at White Lake can get you a replacement.

                            If I can find my wife's camera, I'll post a pic with the toggle cover on.

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