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  • Mikeski
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 2908

    • San Francisco, CA

    • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

    Prop diaries...

    What props have you had on your boat and how have they performed???

    I'll start with props that I have had on my 2005 SV211 V-drive powered by the Excalibur 330HP GM 350, my boat has full ballast tanks and I usually add more weight.

    1) Acme 380 - 13.5 x 17.5 Boat performed reasonably well with a very light boat crew, no ballast, and low fuel level. As soon as you added weight the boat was unacceptably slow out of the hole.

    2) Modified Acme 380 - 13.5 x 16.5 with heavy cup, stock sport prop repitched by Pitchometer Props in Alameda, CA.
    The modification destroyed the prop, sounded like the prop created turbulence under the boat, limited improvement in acceleration out of the hole.

    3) Acme 536 - 13.5 x 16
    Better out of the hole but still not as strong as I wanted, top end dropped from 45mph to 43mph with speakers and bimini up.

    4) Acme 644 13.25 x 16 (stock team edition prop)
    Good holeshot, top end down to 42mph or less depending on load. Seems to lose top end more when barefooting when using this prop.

    5) Acme 1160 13.5 x 16 (same dimensions as the 536 but slightly more cup)
    This prop was chosen in an attempt to gain some some of the top end back for barefooting. It does seem to work a bit better when the boat is lightly loaded but it is definately slower out of the hole than the 644, very close in performance to the 536 but runs maybe 1-2mph faster on top depending on load in the boat.

    5) OJ 13.7 x 15.5 XMP
    I had high expectations for this prop. Unfortunately it did not have the holeshot nor the top end of the Acme 644, was closer to the 536 slower top end than the 1160. I found this quite bothersome so I took several measurements. The blades of the OJ where substantially thicker than the Acme. The OJ blades were 0.150 and 0.183" thick near the leading edge and near the center of the blade. The Acme blades were 0.105 and 0.150" thick in the same locations where measurements were taken on the OJ. I can only speculate the Acme either flexes under acceleration or it's thinner profile allow it to perform a tad better than the OJ. It is interesting to note that the OJ should be much less susceptible to damage from light debris in the water, possibly 25-40% stronger than the Acme.

    6) Acme 1272 14.5x14.25 (deeply cupped)
    This was going to be my high torque prop but I found that it did not perform significantly better than the Acme 644 so I returned it for a 1234.

    7) Acme 1234 14.5x14.25 (standard cup)
    This prop is a good wakeboarding/wakesurfing prop. It is the strongest prop out of the hole when compared to all others. Unfortunately the top end is all the way down to 40mph with a light load and 38+/- for barefooting. It really pushes the motor into the higher rpm ranges for slalom skiing. i am not that comfortable pushing the motor that hard that often. The biggest unexpected realization from this prop was the golf ball sized water pellets it throws at skiers running 28off/34mph (that's me). Getting pelted in the midsection with these large water pellets in the midsection while skiing was no fun. Since I didn't want to start skiing with a cup, I traded this prop for an Acme 856 from a fellow Planet Nautiquer.

    8) Acme 856 to be tested soon.

    I will likely return to the Acme 644 as my normal prop. I will probably keep the 1160 as my backup and the 856 as a high altitude/heavy crew prop. Some motor modifications, possibly a supercharger or otherwise, are likely to be my boat's future. I expect the 1160 would be a great all around prop if I could get over 400 foot pounds out of my motor (over 350lbs at 3000rpm).

    Post what you have run and what you run now.
  • Mikeski
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 2908

    • San Francisco, CA

    • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

    #2
    some pictures of my journey

    Side by side OJ and Acme
    Attached Files

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    • tski97
      • Feb 2006
      • 117


      • 97 Sport

      #3
      I have a 97sport gt40. First prop I had was the stock oj 14 x 16. At the time we lived in Oregon so all the boating was less than 1500 feet. I never felt the need for more prop unless the boat was full of people and weight.

      We moved to Idaho at live about 4500 feet and often boat at 6500 feet. Stock prop was fair with a medium load in the boat. When full it struggled out of the hole. I got an acme 654. I believe it is the same dimensions as the 470 but a 4 blade. I only used it once last year for our last day and true water was rough. The boat was not loaded but I could tell a big change. Much smother and the increased hole shot and mid range acceleration was more than I expected. I look forward to the first run in good water.

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      • Mikeski
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jul 2003
        • 2908

        • San Francisco, CA

        • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

        #4
        answer a question from the direct drive prop thread for Johnboyy...

        The SAN prop center is closer to the hull than the 211 prop so you cannot run a 14.5 prop. If you could I would suggest the 1234, but since you cannot I would probably suggest a 856 or if you want to go extreme the 1464 but watch those RPMs. It's gonna scream with that 1464.

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        • Mikeski
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 2908

          • San Francisco, CA

          • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

          #5
          Here is a link to the Acme prop specs: http://www.acmemarine.com/prop-list_ski-boat.php

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          • AirTool
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 4049

            • Katy, Texas


            #6
            Here is one. 470 vs 422. Speedo was PP - not gps. I might have text in the original post.
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            • NCH2oSki
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 1159

              • Maryville, TN

              • 2005 ski nautique 206 SE

              #7
              Originally posted by AirTool View Post
              Here is one. 470 vs 422. Speedo was PP - not gps. I might have text in the original post.
              How different in your experience was the feel of the pull? In my experience its a softer pull with the lower rpm's at ski speeds.
              2005 Ski Nautique 206 SE, Acme 422, PP SG 8.0, ND Tower
              2011 strada with strada bindings

              Prior Boats:
              1986 Sunbird skier with 150 Evinrude VRO
              1992 Mastercraft prostar 190, with Powerslot
              1999 Ski Nautique GT-40
              1999 Sport Nautique, GT-40 FCT,



              www.skiersofknoxville.org

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              • janswake
                • Oct 2008
                • 125

                • Isle LaMotte, Vermont


                #8
                Just bought a 2008 236 team,does this come standard with the pwer prop?I believe it is the acme 1234 that mikeski is talking about?I asked the dealer over the phone he seemed a little unsure and then stated it did have a power prop on it.When I pick the boat up (if it ever stops snowing in the great lakes) I want to be sure the prop is right.Will it have the numbers 1234 stamped on it.If not what indicators should I look for?

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                • robertsmcfarland
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 544

                  • Hyco

                  • 2014 g23 550

                  #9
                  Yes, it will be stamped on the hub. While the boat is on the trailer just look at the prop, 1234 should be stamp on it.
                  2013 G23 super air
                  2010 230 super air
                  2009 220 super air
                  2008 210 super air
                  2005 210 super air
                  2003 calabria pro air

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                  • robertsmcfarland
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 544

                    • Hyco

                    • 2014 g23 550

                    #10
                    janswake I think the power prop on the 2008 team 230 is 1235 which is LH rotation, the 1234 is for RH rotation.
                    2013 G23 super air
                    2010 230 super air
                    2009 220 super air
                    2008 210 super air
                    2005 210 super air
                    2003 calabria pro air

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