One more year of problems to start my first time out.

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  • TRDon
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Oct 2007
    • 722

    • MN

    • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

    One more year of problems to start my first time out.

    Got out for my first time this year. I revamped the ballast system and got one to prime and the other not to. Figured out it needed to be moved lower, no biggie. Got the surf wake dialed, with just a swap of a sack to a 750 on one side, awesome. V-drive fluid got milky after running it a few hours. EEK. I did disconnect a hose to drain it last year, not the drain plug. I am hoping for just left over contamilated oil mixing with the new oil discoloring it. I did find the drain plug and went that route this time. Let it drain for about an hour and found some nondetergent 30wt oil. I did look it up and it said in 2 places in the manual that it needed 30 wt and one that said Dex III. I think I remember that it needs 30 weight correct? Is it a good chance that the old oil just contaminated the new oil to the point of looking really milky?(considering there was a bit left in there) How much would that take to make it be not see through? How likely could it be that the cooling water system going throught the V-drive could have breeched through freezing before I bought the boat. Just throwing out ideas.

    Once again, I got it going just fine but the first time I shut it off, I could not start it again. I could get both lights on (the keypad) and all accessories would work (I think) but it would not start. I did smack the face of the keypad and after doing that a couple of times it did work and had no other incident this day. This is the same exact thing that happened last year the first times I used the boat. The keypad is suppoasbly new right before I bought it. I dont know if it is the keypad or not. Question about that, if the dead man switch is faulty, would it allow the fuel pump to prime the fuel system or not. I did not notice if that occured today, but will be on the lookout. I assume it will prime if the neutral safety switch is faulty. Any other ideas on what it could be?

    I am planning of going back out foer another test run tomorrow. Please let me know your thoughts.
    Last edited by TRDon; 04-10-2010, 09:45 PM.
  • TRDon
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Oct 2007
    • 722

    • MN

    • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

    #2
    40 views and no input? Maybe this will help out.

    I think I may have to place the pumps lower. I had a problem with one priming, but not really the other. I will look into that. I did, however, have some self filling issues on just the starboard side. I did the check valve, kept the hose high in the compartment and cut off the scoops and had no issues with siphoning out anything , but now it is auto filling. I basically did what this guy did
    http://planetnautique.com/vb3/showth...pring-projects

    Perhaps I did something wrong but I really dont think so. Any thoughts?
    I Monitered the V drive fluid, and the coloration did not change over the 2 hours I put on it. I just changed it out and hope for the best for the next time out. I think I got that one nailed. I think the manual is lying to me, I could only get 1 qt in instead of the 1.5 it calls for.

    I did not have any problems with the keypad today for whatever reason.

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    • NautiqueJeff
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      • Mar 2002
      • 16517
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      #3
      When it wouldn't start, would the starter motor turn the engine at all, or were you not even getting power to the starter?
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      • TRDon
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Oct 2007
        • 722

        • MN

        • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

        #4
        I had full power to the dash and accessories but pushing to start was like not pushing anything at all. No crank, no click, no sound, no nothing.

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        • snowboardcorey
          • Dec 2007
          • 105

          • Minneapolis, MN

          • Past: 1968 Ski Tique

          #5
          Typically a bad kill switch would lead to a boat that cranks but will not fire. In MC's the kill switch being disconnected will also disengage all of your guages, in that they do not power up. Given what you experienced I would say it's not likely the kill switch. Double check the wiring (harness) it could be as simple as a loose connection.
          Sold my boat to buy a house, the house is much less fun.

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          • AirTool
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 4049

            • Katy, Texas


            #6
            Originally posted by TRDon View Post
            I had full power to the dash and accessories but pushing to start was like not pushing anything at all. No crank, no click, no sound, no nothing.
            When you push keypad buttons...does the little red light on the keypad come on...each time?

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            • WakeSlayer
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 2069

              • Silver Creek, MN

              • 1968 Mustang

              #7
              If your lanyard is off or the switch is bad, your fuel pump will not prime. Your NSS is on the trans, and unrelated to the lanyard.
              It sounds like you are getting lucky on the V-drive fluid, but keep your eye on the fluid for the season.
              the WakeSlayer
              1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
              1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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              • jmo
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Mar 2006
                • 707

                • MA


                #8
                In reards to the oil question, the Walters vdrive unit (under the rear seat) takes straight 30 wt motor oil and the transmission takes dextron III tranmission fluid.
                2018 Ski Nautique 200 TE, H6
                - 2006 Ski Nautique 196 LE, Excalibur 330
                - 2001 Super Sport Nautique, GT40

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                • TRDon
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 722

                  • MN

                  • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

                  #9
                  I do get both lights to come on but beyond that I dont get anything else.

                  I might just replace the switch because I know that many people have had problems with them. Especially since it is 20 bux and it is showing the symptoms nI am having.

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                  • TRDon
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 722

                    • MN

                    • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

                    #10
                    Oh yeah, and any thoughts on the ballast self filling issues?

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                    • WakeSlayer
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 2069

                      • Silver Creek, MN

                      • 1968 Mustang

                      #11
                      Don,

                      I do have a couple thoughts on the ballast, but it is nothing you haven't heard from me before.
                      the WakeSlayer
                      1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                      1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                      • TRDon
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 722

                        • MN

                        • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

                        #12
                        lol Should have seen that coming a mile away.

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                        • TRDon
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 722

                          • MN

                          • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

                          #13
                          Nobody has any ideas? I know people have done this.

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