Any bright ideas on quick draining heater

[SGY]

Love the heater in my 99 SNOB. The only problem is when we get into the colder months, I have to drain my motor. I bought the quick drain kit from skidim and it works great. The heater slows me down though. Has anyone come up with a quick way to drain the heater core that also ensures the block is competely drained? I thought about putting drain valves on the heater hoses but am worried whether the block will get completely drained.

Thanks.

Steve

[NautiqueJeff]

Steve,

Here's an interesting method that is used in the north. I have never used this method, so I am not necessarily recommending it, but it sounds good in theory (at least to me). He suggests using a wet/dry shop-vac to suck the water out. Have a read and see what you think...

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Another good tip for boat owners with heaters and showers
Subject: Winter Freezing = Big Boat Problems!
Date: Fri Sep 15 19:55:16 EDT 1995

NOTE: THIS IS LONG WINDED (I USUALLY AM) BUT HOPEFULLY CAN HELP SOME
OF YOU THIS WINTER

I was looking through the Canadian Waterski Page's FAQs during lunch
and looked through the winterization section. Here in Northern
California, some of us ski year around and it rarely gets near freezing
(I'm not tooting my horn, no flames please).

However, about 4 winters ago, we had a terrible freeze that hit us
(there were days during the roughly two-week freeze where Anchorage was
warmer during the day than we were). All but one of my recently
planted Citrus trees died; many other types of vegetation throughout
the area also died.

We were lucky to get much above freezing during the day, and it was
down to the 10s and 20s at night (again, no flames please, I'm just
trying to make a point).

My boat is kept under an overhang next to my garage (previously in the
garage until my wife decided she had to get this house on a hill with a
view but unfortunately just didn't have a 3 car garage--too bad for
me!). Since it is 'outside', I was very concerned about freezing so I
drained everything as best I could (we normally don't need to do it).
I was still worried about any residual water so when it really got
cold, I put a 100 watt shop light under the engine. With the engine
cover closed and the boat cover on, it didn't let any residual water
freeze anywhere in the engine compartment.

HOWEVER, I have a heater in the boat, and although I thought I had done
a pretty good job of draining out all of the water, the heater hoses
were such that not all of the water could drain (I didn't realize this
until later). When I went out to check it as soon as the temperature
finally stayed above freezing, the engine compartment and all hoses
with residual water were fine (the light bulb was still on). But when
I checked under the bow, the hoses to the heater were stiff with ice.
I finally took a blow dryer on low power to the heater and as soon as
it started to warm a little, the heater started leaking all over the
place.

The copper core had split in two places and started leaking when it
thawed. Luckily, I was able to re-solder and repair (4 seasons now and
no problems).

Since then, we haven't had any cold weather like that (occasionally
down to just below freezing). But from December to March, I now drain
it after every use.

The big problem however is still the heater (and shower lines). But I
came up with a great way to get all of the water out:

USE A WET-DRY VACUUM TO SUCK OUT THE WATER!!! Even when it has gotten
cold enough for standing water to freeze a little, I have not had any
more problems:

Drain the engine, etc. normally. Then connect the vacuum to your drain
port and run it for a few minutes (you can usually tell when most of
the water is out as the sucking sound changes when only air is being
sucked vs. air and some water). The heater and shower use some of the
same plumbing so it's easy to pull one hose and then use the various
valves to make sure everything is sucked dry. This also sucks the
engine as well. And you can even use it to suck the raw water hose at
the raw water pump to drain the hose that runs through the trans
cooler.

Many people had ruined blocks after that bad freeze. I did what I was
'supposed' to do, and although my engine was ok (thank goodness), I
still had the heater problem (albeit an easy and inexpensive fix
compared to a new block). Since more and more of you have heaters /
showers, etc., be very careful since those lines don't drain very well.
The last thing you want in early spring when the bug really bites you
is to have hot water dripping out of your heater all over your feet!

Happy Skiing! And here's hoping it doesn't get cold enough that you
need this information!

[SGY]

Draining heater

Thanks Jeff. I hadn't thought about that, but alas, I don't have any electricity at the lake. The other thing I've done is to blow through the hose that goes into the block. When all of the water stops coming out of the block I suspect the entire system is drained. I was just looking for a easier way without getting grime in my mouth or feeling like I just blew up 50 balloons at a B-day party. I guess I'm just lazy.

Thanks,

Steve

[Edwin]

Need for electric at the lake

I have a power converter I use on overseas flights. It plugs into a cigarette lighter and converts the power to 110v. It's made by APC, can be bought at CompUSA for approx $70. I carry it with me every time we travel now...never know when you'll need it.

[Daryl]

shop vac and an inverter

I'm not sure that a small $70 (maybe around 150-300W) inverter (converter) would have enough output to drive a shop vac. I could be wrong but i would sure test it before going out to the lake and count on it!

shop vac is a great idea though!!! think I'm going to try it!

[Edwin]

Another idea

Just another thought - I've used a scuba tank with an air hose adapter to blow the water out of the pipes at my lake house when shutting it down for the winter.