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  • prairiethunder
    • May 2009
    • 84



    addiing stop leak in a Gt-40

    looking for opinions on whether putting some stop leak in with the oil is going to mess up a gt-40. I seem to lose about a 1 ltr of oil over 40- 50 hrs. It's more the mess it makes and it seems to be gumming up my bilge. I haven't spent a lot of time trying to find the leak but I'm not going to re-build the motor to replace a gasket. The leak is from the bottom of the motor somewhere. (not the oil filter) Am i better to keep an eye on the oil level and deal with the minor mess and bilge than try the stop leak?
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  • ers906
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2010
    • 921

    • Phoenix AZ

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    #2
    I am not familiar with Stop-leak..... What exactly is it?
    Eric, Phoenix AZ

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    • gride
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 1441

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      #3
      does that really sound like a viable fix to you?

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      • teamseal
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Dec 2006
        • 382

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        #4
        Fix the darn leak!!

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        • ers906
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Feb 2010
          • 921

          • Phoenix AZ

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          #5
          It seems that there may be a catastrophic failure at some point. this may be a case of an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of the cure
          Eric, Phoenix AZ

          G23 550 hp (finally here)
          2002 Super Air
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          • prairiethunder
            • May 2009
            • 84



            #6
            Originally posted by ers906 View Post
            It seems that there may be a catastrophic failure at some point. this may be a case of an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of the cure
            i hear where your coming from..... i see it as a major project. i have to pay someone to fix it.... don't have the skills to attempt myself

            Originally posted by gride View Post
            does that really sound like a viable fix to you?
            is this my wife? why is my question being answered with a question?

            Originally posted by teamseal View Post
            Fix the darn leak!!
            I'll take that. point scored: teamseal 1 prairie 0
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            • DealsGapCobra
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • May 2010
              • 375

              • Knoxville, TN

              • Ski Nautique 200

              #7
              I have seen stop-leak used and work in some situations and not in many more. I would first look to see where the oil is leaking. My guess is a pan gasket and I don't think the stop-leak will work there and you don't have to rebuild the engine to swap the gasket.

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              • j2nh
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Dec 2003
                • 628

                • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                #8
                Sooner or later you will have to address the source of the leak. Might as well get it done. Take a close look at the fitting on the bottom of the pan where the quick drain oil hose exits. I have seen two of these fittings loose and leaking at the pan. Might be a simple easy fix or it might be something more but either way you need to identify it before considering solutions.
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                • horkn
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 270

                  • WI

                  • 78 CC Martinique, rebuilt floor and custom interior.

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DealsGapCobra View Post
                  I have seen stop-leak used and work in some situations and not in many more. I would first look to see where the oil is leaking. My guess is a pan gasket and I don't think the stop-leak will work there and you don't have to rebuild the engine to swap the gasket.
                  I would think the pan gasket is the culprit too.

                  Is the pan able to be dropped without lifting the motor? I think you could do it with the engine in place if need be.

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                  • prairiethunder
                    • May 2009
                    • 84



                    #10
                    thanks for the suggestions. This had been a "waiting for a baby starring at boat not using for the last 2 weeks in august issue". the pan or oil line seems to be the area of the leak as there is residue on the bottom of the pan. as someone pointed out (can't remember who) I don't think stop leak would help if that is the seal that is not working....

                    Baby boy finally showed up on the weekend so i will have less time to stare at the boat. It might be a pita but i think the oil pan can be dropped to get a new gasket installed. I'll put it on the winter project list
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                    • WakeSlayer
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 2069

                      • Silver Creek, MN

                      • 1968 Mustang

                      #11
                      Originally posted by prairiethunder View Post
                      Baby boy finally showed up on the weekend so i will have less time to stare at the boat.
                      This must be your first? You may be staring at your boat more than you were before. ha ha, sorry, just being funny.

                      You will be lucky if it is just your pan or hose. If it is, I would think just tightening either would fix it. My guess is rear main. Easy to fix. Once you have the motor out...... Pulling the motor really is not that hard either.
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                      • prairiethunder
                        • May 2009
                        • 84



                        #12
                        i know why you say that about starring at the boat. It is our second baby....

                        pic's of first baby girl last summer
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                        • srock
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1066

                          • Florida

                          • 2009 Super Air 230 2005 Whaler Dauntless

                          #13
                          I don't think you ever find a good solution to a problem in a bottle. Wait, I take that back...

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                          • maxpower220
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 116

                            • Florida


                            #14
                            It is your boat and you should do whatever you would like. I would not put "leak stop" and any engine that I was going to keep more than a week. Fix the problems properly. It sounds like a loose oil drain hose, perhaps the oil pan gasket, or at worst the main seal. None of those require an engine build. Heck 2 of those may only require you to tighten some bolts.

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                            • Ceruzziracing
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 58

                              • Lenexa, Kansas

                              • 1997 Ski Nautique 176 GT40

                              #15
                              Ditto on not using Stop Leak, and I'm not going to rag on you for not pulling engine when you have a new baby, etc... Congrats on the new edition... In regards to the pan, I have a 97 SN with GT40, looks verrrrrry tight under there, don't think pan gasket can be done without at least pulling engine up off mounts a few inches. If it's not making blue smoke and power seems fine, I'd just deal with the leak until you have enough coin to fix her. For now, get a few of the oil absorbent diapers/mats that they sell in all the performance catalogs (ie. Sumitt Racing) and place under oil pan. Might be able to put a small, non combustable wedge under them to keep them out of bilge water. Good luck with the little one!
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