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  • ski4evr
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2010
    • 613

    • Bowling Green, KY

    • 2005 SV 211

    Oil bath bearing changeout

    I added a second set of disc brakes to the rear axle of my prestige trailer this week (Original dealer must have cheaped out with one set). I contacted UFP about the kit and they were happy to sell the whole kit for around $260. When specifying the type of hub (I had oil bath) they were pretty insistent that I replace them. They were even willing to give me 4 of the trailer buddies (about 20 bucks apiece) for free if I would replace the oil bath assemblies. When I asked why, they said they had numerous failures and the wheels were flying off of the trailers. HOLY CRAP!!!! So needless to say, I now have greased bearings and 4wheel disc brakes. Can wait for the snow to melt so I can drag it around and try them out!!
    2005 SV-211
  • xrichard
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Aug 2008
    • 667

    • El Dorado Hills

    • 2023 G23

    #2
    Did you change out the spring in the coupler? I added brakes to my second axle and didn't know that I had to do this until the guy selling me the parts pointed it out...(at least with a UFP A60 coupler)
    Previous boats:
    2015 G23
    2008 SAN 210
    2002 XStar
    1995 Sport Nautique

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    • ski4evr
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • May 2010
      • 613

      • Bowling Green, KY

      • 2005 SV 211

      #3
      Yes I did, thanks for checking on me. That actuator is a pain to be such a simple design. Probably was just over thinking it. The rotors also had this black powdercoating on the and had to clean that off as well.
      2005 SV-211

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      • xrichard
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Aug 2008
        • 667

        • El Dorado Hills

        • 2023 G23

        #4
        Heh....I thought the same thing about the actuator. Once I stepped back and took a deep breath, it wasn't such a problem-but it was frustrating for a bit.
        Previous boats:
        2015 G23
        2008 SAN 210
        2002 XStar
        1995 Sport Nautique

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        • JUST-IN-TIME
          • Sep 2007
          • 293

          • ON YOUR BOAT


          #5
          dual disc brakes are super over kill on dual axle trailers
          unless you have an 8000LB boat

          HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

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          • ski4evr
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • May 2010
            • 613

            • Bowling Green, KY

            • 2005 SV 211

            #6
            I roasted the rotors on my truck during a long haul through the mountains, so I contacted UFP about their braking system. The engineer there stated their disc brakes are only rated for 3500 lbs. The boat trailer and gear weigh well over 4800 lbs. Could just be the way I drive, but trying to do something to keep from having to change out the expensive rotors again.
            2005 SV-211

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            • JUST-IN-TIME
              • Sep 2007
              • 293

              • ON YOUR BOAT


              #7
              it is based on axles weight not boat weight

              so 4200lbs per axle is their maximum rating

              you also when need a reversing valve, that could be your problem with eating cars brakes up

              HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

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              • xrichard
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Aug 2008
                • 667

                • El Dorado Hills

                • 2023 G23

                #8
                I talked with UFP tech support before I installed a second set of disc brakes. I was told, at the time, that the 3500lb rating is based on load. So, if I"m 5500lbs (including the trailer), then I need a second set of brakes. I also asked the trailer manufacturer....their line was that single-axle brakes are adequate for my setup in flat-land towing, but for hills and mountains, they'd recommend a second set of brakes.

                Though, immediately after I wrote that I looked at their site and it says: max tandem axle GVWR with one brake axle: 4200lbs. Two brake axles: 6000lbs. So, I'm not sure why I was told 3500lbs. Either way, the rating is based on GVWR...so if your load is over 4200 lbs, then UFP is going to tell you to go with two sets of brakes (or more). Better safe than sorry.
                Last edited by xrichard; 02-14-2011, 10:17 AM.
                Previous boats:
                2015 G23
                2008 SAN 210
                2002 XStar
                1995 Sport Nautique

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                • TRST
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 44



                  #9
                  I'm curious how many have had problems or failures with the oil bath hubs.
                  2007 196 Limited Zero Off

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                  • Quinner
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 2245

                    • Unknown

                    • Correct Crafts

                    #10
                    Have an 05' Eagle with Dual Axle-oil baths, a couple hubs have gotten a little milky so I changed the oil, other then that no problems.

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                    • JUST-IN-TIME
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 293

                      • ON YOUR BOAT


                      #11
                      its strange because my pacific trailer i wanted 4 disc
                      my boat is around 6800
                      they said twin disc is over kill, based i use a Denali to tow

                      yes if you tow with a pick up, less weight in the rear, then twin disc will be better

                      as for water in the oil hubs, i have seen it more then once
                      to fix it we used blue lock-tight on the seal

                      HUMAN BUILT = HUMAN FIXED

                      CERTIFIED MARINE/PWC TECHNICIAN
                      switchbait.com

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                      • AirTool
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4049

                        • Katy, Texas


                        #12
                        Originally posted by xrichard View Post
                        Though, immediately after I wrote that I looked at their site and it says: max tandem axle GVWR with one brake axle: 4200lbs. Two brake axles: 6000lbs. So, I'm not sure why I was told 3500lbs.
                        Maybe the 3500 was the payload and the 4200 is the total weight including the axle and wheels. I'm not sure all the gear would add to 700 lbs...but it might.

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