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  • tdc_worm
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2004
    • 532



    #1

    steering issue...

    underway, my boat is difficult to turn to the right. at rest, on the trailer, the steering is free, with and without the cable connected to the the rudder tiller arm...which should eliminate the cable. thoughts?
  • WakeSlayer
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 2069

    • Silver Creek, MN

    • 1968 Mustang

    #2
    Check that everything in your helm is tight and in good shape. Also, verifly the cable block clamp is tightly clamped to the metal cylinder near the rear of the boat.
    the WakeSlayer
    1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
    1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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    • tdc_worm
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Feb 2004
      • 532



      #3
      helm is tight, rudder is tight. 4 year old boat. only happens under load.

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      • skiinxs
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jul 2003
        • 374

        • St. Louis

        • 2019 Ski Nautique 6.2 arriving soon

        #4
        Try greasing the rudder port, synthetic grease is best (most slippery). It will naturally be harder to turn to the right, and if the rudder port is dry with lots of friction, the load of the water pushing back on the rudder will make it hard to turn, even if it turns easily sitting on the trailer.
        Dave
        2019 Ski Nautique 6.2 arriving soon
        16 other Ski Nautiques
        3 MasterCrafts
        18 Ski Supreme's
        1 SlickCraft Squirt Boat

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        • tdc_worm
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Feb 2004
          • 532



          #5
          rudder has a fresh service on it...grease w synthetic grease...

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          • LT206
            • Mar 2006
            • 262

            • Huntsville, AL


            #6
            Also try adjusting the tab on your rudder.. Tournament drivers adjust it to have lots of load on the wheel to help compensate for the pull of a skier. This may be your problem.

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            • Chexi
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Apr 2025
              • 2119

              • Austin

              • 2000 SAN

              #7
              ^ was my guess too.
              Now
              2000 SAN

              Previously
              1999 Air Nautique
              1996 Tige Pre-2000
              1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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              • nevergrew
                • Jul 2010
                • 8



                #8
                Originally posted by skiinxs View Post
                Try greasing the rudder port, synthetic grease is best (most slippery). It will naturally be harder to turn to the right, and if the rudder port is dry with lots of friction, the load of the water pushing back on the rudder will make it hard to turn, even if it turns easily sitting on the trailer.
                Dave
                Had the same issue with my older SN and greasing the rudder shaft and port helps heaps.

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                • bhectus
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 283

                  • Gainesville, FL

                  • '02 Ski Nautique '87 Barefoot Nautique - sold '97 Super Sport - sold '96 SN196-sold '83 2001 sold

                  #9
                  Digging up an old post here but I just got a new steering cable installed by local dealer and at same time had them replace the shaft packing as it was leaking pretty badly. When I picked up the boat I asked how bad the packing rope was and got handed a few pieces of dried up crusty rope that looked horrible. Took the boat out this past saturday and it still didn't feel like it steered like it should with a brand new cable. Water was dripping more than normal from the rudder port so I am suspecting that the packing in that port too is old and bad and what is causing the steering issue. I checked and there is no zerk fitting on the port itself (boat is a '97 Super Sport). I'm relatively mechanically inclined and it is super easy to get to the port on my v-drive, but I haven't been able to find any good posts showing step-by-step process. Also after replacing the packing, do I need to lubricate it separately also with grease and if so where? Thanks!
                  2002 Ski Nautique 5.7 GM Apex

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                  • crobi2
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 337

                    • Texas

                    • 2000 Super Air Nautique

                    #10
                    I just did mine, it should be the same as yours. Leave the boat short on the trailer so the rudder can drop past the prop guard. Put blocks under the rudder so it doesn't fall out and hit the ground.

                    On the inside, cut the safety wire and disconnect the clamp bolt and the bolt on top of the rudder shaft. At this point, the rudder may fall out. Use a channel lock or other wrench to loosen the packing nut lock ring and packing nut. (on rudder should be righty-tighty, lefty-loosie). Replace packing with 3/16" gore tex packing.

                    Grease rudder shaft (marine grease) and slide it back in and block it up high. Replace packing nut. Replace clamp bolt and rudder bolt. Safety wire. Tighten packing nut by hand and slightly by wrench (does not need to be too tight). Secure locking ring. Done.
                    Rob
                    2000 SAN

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                    • bhectus
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 283

                      • Gainesville, FL

                      • '02 Ski Nautique '87 Barefoot Nautique - sold '97 Super Sport - sold '96 SN196-sold '83 2001 sold

                      #11
                      Thanks Rob! It is 15 miles to the lake so I think it would be easier to just unbolt the prop-guard from the trailer. For safety wire, I have some I use for my motocross grips, looks to be the same gauge, guess that will work fine?
                      2002 Ski Nautique 5.7 GM Apex

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                      • crobi2
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 337

                        • Texas

                        • 2000 Super Air Nautique

                        #12
                        You're lucky you can unbolt the prop-guard!

                        I saw somewhere that they recommend stainless steel safety wire at least 0.032".

                        Motocross grips? Footpegs or handgrips? Will you explain?
                        Rob
                        2000 SAN

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                        • bhectus
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 283

                          • Gainesville, FL

                          • '02 Ski Nautique '87 Barefoot Nautique - sold '97 Super Sport - sold '96 SN196-sold '83 2001 sold

                          #13
                          I think that is what I have is .032. For motocross grips, I usually run 2 loops on each grip, you wrap it around twice and then twist 5 times, cut the end and push the end into the grip. With this and grip glue or whatever you prefer, your grips will never come off, wet weather included. Cheap insurance.
                          2002 Ski Nautique 5.7 GM Apex

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                          • crobi2
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 337

                            • Texas

                            • 2000 Super Air Nautique

                            #14
                            I guess we rode like wimps when I had a dirtbike, I never thought about a grip coming off. Gives me the shakes thinking about it now!
                            Rob
                            2000 SAN

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                            • Flathead Bill
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4

                              • Alta Loma CA

                              • Current: 2016 SuperAir 210 Prior: 2002 Air - owned since new and sold 2016

                              #15
                              I have a 2002 AIR and will be re-packing the rudder post before putting the boat in for the season. I replaced the steering cable last fall which was a challenge as the ballast tanks on the 2002 AIR sit above the rudder post. Barely enough room to reach down and get to the cable end nut/bolt. It appears that you have to remove the gas tank to get the ballast tanks out of the way to have any real access to the rudder post. So, if anyone has experience with this - any advice would be great.

                              Also, I had one shop mention using o rings at the bottom of the rudder shaft.My rudder shaft currently rocks slightly in the post if you push/pull the rudder blade forward and aft. Any comments on using o rings at the base of the rudder shaft?
                              Last edited by Flathead Bill; 04-21-2016, 04:52 PM.

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