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  • SCNautique210SAN
    • Mar 2011
    • 194

    • SoCal

    • 13 G23 04 SAN 210TE 92 Sport Nautique

    04 san210 oil change question

    I know this is a dumb question but the owners manual for the PCM 330 in my nautique calls for 15w40, does everyone run that weight? What do you all recommend for that engine in 90 to 110 degree weather? Doing this today so a quick response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • wskiboy
    • May 2010
    • 50

    • canada

    • 1996 196 closed bow

    #2
    I run 15/40 in my boat

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    • AirTool
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 4049

      • Katy, Texas


      #3
      Originally posted by SCNautique210SAN View Post
      I know this is a dumb question but the owners manual for the PCM 330 in my nautique calls for 15w40, does everyone run that weight? What do you all recommend for that engine in 90 to 110 degree weather? Doing this today so a quick response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
      Yes. Use the 15w40 oil. It is commonly marketed as oil for "diesels" but it meets the API rating for gasoline engines. You can find it at almost any store from walmart to auto parts.

      Mobil 1300?
      Shell Rotella
      Chevron Delo
      Motorcraft

      and others.

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      • maxxwell
        • Jul 2010
        • 147

        • Houston, TX

        • 2008 Air Nautique SV211 TE

        #4
        yeah, I use Shell Rotella 15W-40 in the boat and the Diesel, usually have gallons sitting around when it is time for oil change in the boat, I also use WIX filter

        my change interval is every 50 hrs
        Gone - 2008 Air Nautique SV-211 Team Ed - Death by Fire

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        • TRDon
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Oct 2007
          • 722

          • MN

          • 1985 2001 1993 Sport carb GT40 2003 SANTE Excalibur

          #5
          I put in 10-40 last time I changed it. It was available and I had a really hard time coming up with a 15-40 that I wanted to use. After doing research, I found the 10-40 will deliver equivelant warm engine performance as a 15-40 so that is what I went with and I will probably use it before I change over to a 10-40 synthetic.

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          • AirTool
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 4049

            • Katy, Texas


            #6
            Originally posted by TRDon View Post
            I put in 10-40 last time I changed it. It was available and I had a really hard time coming up with a 15-40 that I wanted to use. After doing research, I found the 10-40 will deliver equivelant warm engine performance as a 15-40 so that is what I went with and I will probably use it before I change over to a 10-40 synthetic.
            note the 10w40 will break down faster than the 15w40. The farther apart the numbers, the faster they degrade. As your oil breaks down, its viscosity will tend to the base oil viscosity (the first number). The hotter the oil/engine temp, the faster they break down. Fortunately, our engines run quite cool...especially with fresh water cooling.

            Funny that the same (maybe only similar) engine in my tahoe gets 5w30. I've always wondered if the oil ports etc. are different in the marine engine. Maybe its the governments CAFE biz or maybe the overall load vs. RPM difference between a truck and a boat. Heck, my boat is always stuck in first gear.

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            • H2O
              • Jul 2006
              • 247



              #7
              Per PCM owner's manual for Excalibur motors:
              Above 50* F, SAE 15W-40 "SM"
              Below 50* F, SAE 5W-30 "SM"
              I would assume that using 10W-40 "SM" would be acceptable, especially if using an easily found synthetic. And, yes, synthetic is approved by PCM.

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              • SCNautique210SAN
                • Mar 2011
                • 194

                • SoCal

                • 13 G23 04 SAN 210TE 92 Sport Nautique

                #8
                Thanks for the info. What's the difference between "sj" and "sm"? My manual calls for sj.

                Also. How often do you all normally change v drive and trans fluid?


                Just figured id show her off a little

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                • AirTool
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4049

                  • Katy, Texas


                  #9
                  Originally posted by SCNautique210SAN View Post
                  Thanks for the info. What's the difference between "sj" and "sm"? My manual calls for sj.
                  m is next in the series. Each time the spec is revised, they rev'd up the letter.

                  Generally, the new specs are removing contaminates that some say either pollute or harm the catalytic converter.

                  At the time your manual was printed, sm probably didn't exist.

                  You are A-OK with using SM.

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                  • GoBig
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 551

                    • Santa Cruz, CA


                    #10
                    +1 for Shell Rotella 15W-40
                    2003 SANTE

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                    • DanielC
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2669

                      • West Linn OR

                      • 1997 Ski Nautique

                      #11
                      The newer spec oils are for newer engines. Using new oil in older engines may not be OK. The Ford GT-40 engine is a non-roller cam engine, and it needs to have some of the supplements that are removed from the newer oils.

                      With the GM Excaliber engine, the SM oil is probably OK, but if you find SJ oil, I would use that.
                      You can use a synthetic oil, but you cannot go longer on the oil change intervals.
                      Engine oil and filter change, every 50 hours.
                      Transmission oil change, every 100 hours.
                      Walters V-drive oil change, once a season. or every 500 hours (not a misprint)

                      You should also change the oils at the end of the boating season, before winter layup.

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