2003 Super Air - PCM 330 cranking but not starting

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  • obd666
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2010
    • 793

    • Bostian Heights, NC

    • 03 SANTE

    #16
    sweet, way to go ... always feels great to knock it out yourself
    2003 SANTE - "OG 210"

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    • bj25430
      • Aug 2009
      • 65

      • McAlester, OK

      • 2008 220 SANTE - Current - 2006 SV211 TE Air Nauti

      #17
      How many hour were on your boat? And how long had it been since you changed it? I have an 2006 that i just bought and i havent look at the distributor yet, but im interested at how long it had been? And what is the recommended time that PCM recommends this being changed. Glad you got the boat cuzin.

      thanks

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      • ricky
        • Feb 2011
        • 16

        • Austin, TX

        • 2008 SANTE 230

        #18
        Originally posted by bj25430 View Post
        How many hour were on your boat? And how long had it been since you changed it? I have an 2006 that i just bought and i havent look at the distributor yet, but im interested at how long it had been? And what is the recommended time that PCM recommends this being changed. Glad you got the boat cuzin.

        thanks
        She has 570 hours, and I recently purchased this nautique this season, if I had to guess I would say it has never been replaced.

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        • AirTool
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 4049

          • Katy, Texas


          #19
          Originally posted by ricky View Post
          She has 570 hours, and I recently purchased this nautique this season, if I had to guess I would say it has never been replaced.

          This is a chronic problem on these caps. They probably could just be "cleaned" every season to get the filings and burn blister off.

          All: I don't know on the marine engine. On the auto version, the destirbutor housing is plastic. Two years ago I changed the cap on my tohoe and the round ear on the housing for the screw broke off. I had to replace the distributor. I went back with an Accel billet aluminum version

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          • bj25430
            • Aug 2009
            • 65

            • McAlester, OK

            • 2008 220 SANTE - Current - 2006 SV211 TE Air Nauti

            #20
            How often does this need to be changed? I went the the PCM manual last night and was unable to find the recommended time frame to change the cap and rotor, or even the spark plugs and wires? What is a good guideline to follow.? I opened mine list night and its a 2006 and bought it with 67 hrs and it. It now has 183 hrs on it and there was some white power corrosion on the cap and some burn on the rotor contact. Thanks guys!

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            • ricky
              • Feb 2011
              • 16

              • Austin, TX

              • 2008 SANTE 230

              #21
              Originally posted by bj25430 View Post
              How often does this need to be changed? I went the the PCM manual last night and was unable to find the recommended time frame to change the cap and rotor, or even the spark plugs and wires? What is a good guideline to follow.? I opened mine list night and its a 2006 and bought it with 67 hrs and it. It now has 183 hrs on it and there was some white power corrosion on the cap and some burn on the rotor contact. Thanks guys!
              I would recommend cleaning any visible corrosion off with a brush and if you can see that the contacts in the distributor have become pitted or have buildup that you cannot remove then it would be a good time to replace. Same goes for the rotor.

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              • ers906
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Feb 2010
                • 921

                • Phoenix AZ

                • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

                #22
                I tend to changes fluids according to the hour meter (every 50 for oil, etc), but I figure plugs rotor and filters are easy enough I just change at the beginning of each season. May be overkill but I feel better about it, plus these boats are **** expensive, whats another 90$ or so
                Eric, Phoenix AZ

                G23 550 hp (finally here)
                2002 Super Air
                1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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                • AirTool
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4049

                  • Katy, Texas


                  #23
                  Originally posted by ers906 View Post
                  .... whats another 90$ or so
                  A tank of gas.

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                  • ers906
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 921

                    • Phoenix AZ

                    • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

                    #24
                    At last years gas prices maybe... This year it may mean a half day on the lake.
                    Eric, Phoenix AZ

                    G23 550 hp (finally here)
                    2002 Super Air
                    1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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                    • emjayem
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 36

                      • Rogers, Minnesota, United States

                      • 2004 SANTE

                      #25
                      Well, I am having a no start issue that is similar to this.... I have an 04 SANTE, about 550 hours, owned it for 3 years, new plugs then, all other maint up to date, never had any drive-ability, rough running, hesitation, etc before now.

                      On the lake yesterday going through a slow zone, had been out for maybe an hour, engine stalled with no hiccup or any warning. Tried restarting, cranks fine, still no start. Checked the obvious, lanyard, loose connections, breakers, fuses, all ok. Went as far as pulling out safety switch and jumped it together. Could clearly smell fuel, both pumps turning on. Pulled plug wires for visual, cranked and checked for spark, all ok. No fuel psi gauge at the moment, but some sprayed up when pushing the test port valve, will check actual psi tomorrow. Pulled off dizzy cap and it was very fuzzy and rotor end was pretty black so I used a wire brush to clean them up while stranded, still nothing. Replaced cap and rotor today, no change.... was really hoping that was it.

                      Dinked around with checking voltages at pumps, ok tried checking injector pulse, a bit too fast for my meter but definitely pulsing. Crankng voltage ok. Unplugged pretty much every connector to check for the green, all look ok. Now when i crank it I get a MAP sensor fault message in the dash

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                      • Woodchuck
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 1

                        • New Hampshire

                        • 2004 Sport/Air Nautique 216

                        #26
                        emjayem , did you ever figure this issue out?

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                        • tonka
                          • May 2014
                          • 1



                          #27
                          Originally posted by Woodchuck View Post
                          emjayem , did you ever figure this issue out?
                          I did figure it out. Not sure what happened to my account, but this is emjayem.... Anyways, it ended up being the ignition coil. I had checked the plugs and spark with a non adjustable spark tester and it appeared to be fine, had visible spark. I talked to an old guy and was told that the spark should be able to jump a 40k gap. I picked up an adjustable gap spark tester and sure as ****, no spark at 40k. Replaced coil, been perfect since
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