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  • 2WIN
    • Mar 2005
    • 42

    • Galesburg Illinois

    #1

    Dead SV211 (totally dead)

    Hey all, it's been quite a while since I've been here because our boat's been reliable until yesterday. We put it away in a heated garage last fall and winterized it. It was working great then, and now it's completely dead. We have power at the batteries and power after the three main fuses off of the battery switch. I'm just about to go test to see if we have power at the start stop control module on the dash. I did remove the circuit breaker box in the foot well and checked to see if there was power at the positive and negative and I get nothing, but without a wiring diagram, I don't know if I should be.

    My question is; has anyone had this issue before, and does any one have a wiring diagram on this thing. The nearest dealer is 2.5 hours from my home so I'd like to figure this out on my own if possible.

    Any help you all can provide is much appreciated.

    Chris
    Tags: battery, dead, power, sv211
  • Chexi
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Feb 2025
    • 2119

    • Austin

    • 2000 SAN
    #2
    I know this seems obvious, but check to make sure the lanyard is connected.
    Now
    2000 SAN

    Previously
    1999 Air Nautique
    1996 Tige Pre-2000
    1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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    • 2WIN
      • Mar 2005
      • 42

      • Galesburg Illinois

      #3
      Thanks! First thing I did. I believe power will still come on with it disconnected. I have NO power.

      I'm starting to think the dealers going to have to look at it. Ugh...

      Chris

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      • MikeC
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Apr 2007
        • 535

        • Georgia

        • 1999 Ski Nautique (Python powered) 2017 GS22 (sold) 2005 SV211 (sold)
        #4
        have you checked your bilge pump swith located next to the ballast valves?

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        • SkiTundra
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jul 2008
          • 513

          • Unknown

          #5
          The on/off/bilge switch controls a relay that's up under the console. Check to see where you have power on that relay.

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          • 2WIN
            • Mar 2005
            • 42

            • Galesburg Illinois

            #6
            Wait... HUH??

            You're telling me that perhaps the bilge pump relay controls the power to the whole boat? Really?

            I just want to clarify that when I say DEAD, I mean no lights, no nothing, but we have good batteries.

            When you say balast control valves, you mean the ones right next to the bilge switch in the foot well, or the ones back infront of the engine?

            Getting the boat ready for the spring, my brother was cleaning up under there... Hmm... I wonder... That switch controls the power to the boat? WTH?

            Chris

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            • WakeSlayer
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 2069

              • Silver Creek, MN

              • 1968 Mustang
              #7
              Originally posted by 2WIN View Post
              Wait... HUH??

              That switch controls the power to the boat? WTH?

              Chris
              Yep. And they have been known to go out.
              the WakeSlayer
              1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
              1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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              • dgrimm
                • Apr 2009
                • 8


                #8
                Originally posted by WakeSlayer View Post
                Yep. And they have been known to go out.
                I seem to recall a forum thread a year or two ago where someone had experienced this same problem. As I recall, this switch turned out to be the culprit. Someone even suggested keeping an extra on hand (because, of course, it is most likely to happen during that holiday weekend when you are entertaining guests....).

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                • MikeC
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 535

                  • Georgia

                  • 1999 Ski Nautique (Python powered) 2017 GS22 (sold) 2005 SV211 (sold)
                  #9
                  Originally posted by 2WIN View Post
                  Wait... HUH??

                  You're telling me that perhaps the bilge pump relay controls the power to the whole boat? Really?

                  I just want to clarify that when I say DEAD, I mean no lights, no nothing, but we have good batteries.

                  When you say balast control valves, you mean the ones right next to the bilge switch in the foot well
                  That switch controls the power to the boat? WTH?

                  Chris
                  Exactly, if that switch isn't in the correct position or if it fails there will be no power to the boat at all...no lights...no radio...only your bilge pumps will work. It's there so you can leave your boat and power your bilge pumps and nothing else.

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                  • AirTool
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4049

                    • Katy, Texas

                    #10
                    The bilge pump would run only in the bilge on position not the all on position....unless the keypad is turned on. Usually the bilge only side doesn't fail.

                    Also remember the middle connector is hot. If your switch is properly mounted and "all on" is up, the bottom tang is the line side of interest. The tang fails "mechanically" inside.

                    I BELIEVE BECAUSE CC TIES A CABLE TIE TO THAT TANG TO PREVENT THE SWITCH FROM ROTATING. On my boat, the cable tie went back to the 12v power point to keep the switch from rotating and loosening. The load on the tang breaks it. (That is my opinion and not a proven fact)

                    You can test it with a volt meter. Search my posts on this site using key word "toggle" I have many posts with suggested part numbers for repair. I have a short term "fix" but will only pm it.


                    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aqi=&aql=&oq=

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                    • 2WIN
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 42

                      • Galesburg Illinois

                      #11
                      AWESOME guys thanks a TON! I'm sure that's our issue then. My guess is my brother who had interior cleaning duty, flipped the switch. This is a nice to know item and would have been nice for the dealer to have run that one by us when we purchased it.

                      My father is going down (hour away) for something else and plans to play with it. If it's the switch, I may have him remove it and take a shot of it. If it's a common switch, I may be able to pick one up. Is it a single pole single throw switch? (on off)

                      Chris

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                      • WakeSlayer
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 2069

                        • Silver Creek, MN

                        • 1968 Mustang
                        #12
                        Not certain on the terminology, but it isn't single pole, single throw. Center is off. Down is Bilge Only, up is full boat circuits on.
                        the WakeSlayer
                        1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                        1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                        • SkiTundra
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 513

                          • Unknown

                          #13
                          Its double-throw and I believe also double pole (thus DPDT). HOWEVER, your problem could very well be the PME Relay, not the switch. Does he know how to use a VO meter? You should check both the switch and the relay.

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                          • AirTool
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4049

                            • Katy, Texas

                            #14
                            It is single pole / double throw on-off-on. I can't remember the amp rating but it is low and stated in the specs linked below. (from an old post)

                            3. I found this one that turned out to be a nice switch. The site says made in USA but it is not. I can't remember where, but I think it is Mexico. It was NOT China and it was not the "Carling" sp? switch.

                            mfg - Cole Hersee 5586 available here:

                            http://www.elecdirect.com/product.aspx?id=12484

                            4. I also installed one of these rubber boots to keep the water out:
                            (This boot will likely fit on your existing switch.)

                            mfg - Cole Hersee 81264-07 (yellow)

                            http://www.elecdirect.com/product.aspx?id=13426

                            5. Here is another choice:

                            mfg - Cole Hersee 81255 half boot

                            http://www.elecdirect.com/product.aspx?id=13407

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                            • 2WIN
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 42

                              • Galesburg Illinois

                              #15
                              Ok first off this thread should be a sticky!

                              Second off... IT FREAKING WORKS!!! My bro must have tripped it. I feel like a moron, but I WAS ignorant. Dealers should point this stuff out! Hard to believe we've gone 6 years without the issue! lol

                              Does anyone have specs on the relay? Where it's located? I'd like to get a second one to have on the shelf.

                              This boat doesn't see rain or water inside. Normal water from people jumping in only. It's covered with custom covers and sits under a cover on a lift so I don't think the switch cover is necessary right now, but thanks for the info.

                              Believe it or not I did a search for this issue and couldn't find anything.

                              Again... THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!! You saved me 10 hours worth of driving to and from the dealer and a lot of money on gas...

                              Chris

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