Dewinterizing: do I need to change my oil if I did it in the winter?

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  • jackkloepfer
    • Nov 2008
    • 58



    #1

    Dewinterizing: do I need to change my oil if I did it in the winter?

    I changed my oil on my GT40 when I winterized in December. should I have to do it again before getting her running for the season?

    also, I tried to search for a "dewinterizing checklist" that covers everything that should be checked on before the season, and I can't find anything.


    If you guys and gals can point me in the right direction, it would be a huge help.

    Thank you!
  • TxJole
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jun 2009
    • 898

    • Cedar Creek Lake TEXAS


    #2
    I do, for the simple fact hot cold hot cold here in Texas condensates and the price of oil is not worth the price of an engine.
    2008 210 SAN TE (Moonraker Yellow over Midnight Blue)

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    • jackkloepfer
      • Nov 2008
      • 58



      #3
      Originally posted by TxJole View Post
      I do, for the simple fact hot cold hot cold here in Texas condensates and the price of oil is not worth the price of an engine.
      tough to argue that point, kind sir. thank you!

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      • TxJole
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jun 2009
        • 898

        • Cedar Creek Lake TEXAS


        #4
        I normally will not change at time of winteriztion if not needed, but will drop some seafoam in for the rust inhiditor. Then run it a few runs.
        2008 210 SAN TE (Moonraker Yellow over Midnight Blue)

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        • SBRS
          • Jul 2010
          • 63

          • Rancho Cordova, Ca.

          • 2012 Ski Nautique 200 CB (current boat) 2013 Ski N

          #5
          Below is a copy of our check list. The bottom half is for de-winterizing.


          WINTERIZATION
          Pour in fuel stabilizer
          Warm engine to normal temperature
          Change crankcase oil and filter
          Restart engine, idle for 5 minutes
          Fog engine with fogging oil
          Empty and clean raw water filter
          Remove all drain plugs and hoses, drain water
          Remove raw water pump impeller, inspect impeller's condition
          Drain V-drive when applicable
          Drain heater / shower when applicable
          Drain ballast tanks when applicable
          Disconnect the battery or batteries
          Drain bilge and make sure all compartments in bilge area are dry
          Spray engine down with corrision guard
          Bag and Tag engine plugs and impeller with warning label on steering wheel
          Detail boat and cover, if one came with boat

          DATE WINTERIZATION COMPLETED:

          RECOMMISSION
          Assemble water pump and reinstall on engine
          Charge battery or batteries
          Install all engine drain plugs (V-drive also when present) and hoses
          Install ballast drain plugs when applicable
          Check belt tension
          Check engine and transmission fluid levels (v-drive also when present)
          Check trailer - lights, grease bearing buddies, tighten lugs, & inspect bunks
          Run and check for leaks
          Detail boat and cover, if one came with boat

          DATE RECOMMISSION COMPLETED:

          Comments:
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          Hull#:

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          • scottb7
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 2198

            • Carson City, Nevada

            • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

            #6
            Wouldn't condensation evaporate off when engine warms up? I never heard of doing before and after.

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            • shag
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 2217

              • Florida


              #7
              It's easy and cheap.... Change the oil.

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              • east tx skier
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 1561

                • Tyler, TX


                #8
                I change at winterization, but not again in the spring. Boat is 14 years old and runs like a top.
                www.tylerskiclub.com/winterization.html

                www.tylerskiclub.com/dewinterization/html
                1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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                • TxJole
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 898

                  • Cedar Creek Lake TEXAS


                  #9
                  Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
                  Wouldn't condensation evaporate off when engine warms up? I never heard of doing before and after.
                  Nope mixes with oil. If that was the case water from a blown head gasket would burn off too and not turn oil to chocolate milk. Oil is cheap, why risk water in it? Like I said I normaly do not change before I put it up, but I like to change when it awakes.
                  2008 210 SAN TE (Moonraker Yellow over Midnight Blue)

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                  • AirTool
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4049

                    • Katy, Texas


                    #10
                    My only concern is if the oil temp went to below freezing several or extended times.

                    At the end of the summer, if my oil has less than 10 or 15 hours on it and it is still clear as honey, I leave it and change in the spring after one run to heat it up. If more than 15 or starting to darken, I change it before and don't change it again in the spring. I changed on both ends the first couple of years and now contend that two changes is ridiculous...in my case anyway.

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                    • east tx skier
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1561

                      • Tyler, TX


                      #11
                      Do you not worry about the contaminants in the oil being in there for the duration of the layup? Seems to be the driving force behind changing the oil before layup.
                      1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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                      • AirTool
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4049

                        • Katy, Texas


                        #12
                        Originally posted by east tx skier View Post
                        Do you not worry about the contaminants in the oil being in there for the duration of the layup? Seems to be the driving force behind changing the oil before layup.
                        With only 10 hours of service? ...10 hours at 1/4 throttle? If the oil was changed properly before (draining over night) I can't even see it on the dipstick.

                        And remember, there is no EGR or other crap on these engines and our oil runs unusually cold if you have raw water cooling.

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                        • Quinner
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 2246

                          • Unknown

                          • Correct Crafts

                          #13
                          IMO it's more important to change in the fall then the spring. I am of the same thought process as the tool & tex, if it's clean and looks good in the spring then run it. Additionally if you do more then 50 hrs on a typical season or if you have say 30hrs or so by the mid point, change the oil then.

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                          • AirTool
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4049

                            • Katy, Texas


                            #14
                            Originally posted by Quinner View Post
                            IMO it's more important to change in the fall then the spring. I am of the same thought process as the tool & tex, if it's clean and looks good in the spring then run it. Additionally if you do more then 50 hrs on a typical season or if you have say 30hrs or so by the mid point, change the oil then.
                            Your first sentence is true and one of the main points I think we all agree on.

                            Your last sentence validates the situation I try to avoid and my message above. Close to the end of the season, I'm coming up on an oil change, and I'm wondering when is the season actually going to end? Do I push what's in there past my own personal limit? (no way) Do I change it? Of course. Then let's say we are blessed with another weekend and maybe a day off from work on a warm sunny fall day...and I put a few hours on it. So what?

                            I want to avoid the situation where I get surprised by an early end (weather, travel, whatever) and then I can't change the brown oil hot. That would absolutely suck if I had to leave it in all winter. So I guarantee myself that I'm not stuck in that situation. This year I did the usual then quit my job in September. I put enough hours in in September and October to need another oil change. Then I made a trip or two and got shut down.

                            Another bad thing to do is put fresh oil in and not run at least once to heat it up and spread it all around and fill the remote filter tubing. Thus also flushing or at least diluting the residual oil that didn't drain out of all the nooks and crannies (which can be a lot if you don't use the right procedure to change your oil.) I don't mean 10 minutes in the drive way either, I mean work the engine hard.

                            In the spring, I really don't like to do any work on the boat BEFORE I use it. My lake is small private and worse case is I have to walk it back to the ramp. When I get in it. I want to be sure tha any problems I have on day one were not because of something I did in summerizing. I'll run it a trip or two then do my usual biz like impeller, oil, fuel filter, and tranny if it wasn't done near the end of the year. (this year a belt).

                            Speaking of tranny - everytime I suck that stuff out it looks exactly like the new stuff I pour in...but still going to do it that way.

                            PS - below the equator this week in lovely Lima, Peru.
                            Last edited by AirTool; 03-17-2012, 02:33 PM.

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                            • east tx skier
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1561

                              • Tyler, TX


                              #15
                              Originally posted by AirTool View Post
                              With only 10 hours of service? ...10 hours at 1/4 throttle? If the oil was changed properly before (draining over night) I can't even see it on the dipstick.

                              And remember, there is no EGR or other crap on these engines and our oil runs unusually cold if you have raw water cooling.
                              Sorry, that question was intended for TXJole. We must have responded at the same time.

                              Just got back from our first lake trip of the year. Boat ran like a top.
                              Last edited by east tx skier; 03-17-2012, 03:22 PM.
                              1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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