Removal of rear hard shell ballast tanks in 08 210

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  • Chad52
    • May 2004
    • 295

    • Huntsville, AL

    • 2008 Super Air Nautique 210 2003 Super Air Nautique Team 210 2001 Super Air Nautique Team 210 1999 Super Air Nautique 210 1994 Mastercraft Prostar 190 1992 Manta Ray 189 Sport

    Removal of rear hard shell ballast tanks in 08 210

    Anybody got any tips on this? I was trying to get mine out tonight and finally gave up due to not having enough hands.

    Is it easier to pull it out the front or remove it through the back hatch? I made the mistake of trying to do this in my garage where the tower doesn't raise up past 3/4 height and this turned out to be a major PITA. I think I'm gonna pull it outside tomorrow and try it again where I don't have any obstruction pulling out the front. I couldn't pull it out the rear as I couldn't make the angle due to the length of the tank. But there just might be a trick to it that somebody knows that I haven't found yet...
  • Chad52
    • May 2004
    • 295

    • Huntsville, AL

    • 2008 Super Air Nautique 210 2003 Super Air Nautique Team 210 2001 Super Air Nautique Team 210 1999 Super Air Nautique 210 1994 Mastercraft Prostar 190 1992 Manta Ray 189 Sport

    #2
    FWIW, I did get the tank out by pulling it out the front. It was very tough to do due to the molded adjutment on the rear bottom face of the tank. If it wasn't for that small section, the tank would have came out easily.

    If anybody has any helpful reccomendations, please post them up. I still have to do my port side to do.

    I did this exercise for 2 reasons:

    1.) To compare the 750 lb Fatsac vs a piggyback setup on top of the factory hard tank. The 750 sac (which BTW, I think is more like 720 if you do the math...) is the way to go. Much more storage room when not filled and even when filled, only takes up about 2/3 of the compartment. I filled with 2 cycles of the pump and it was not completely full however I couldn't fill it all the way or it would overbalance the opposite side with the factory hard tank and piggyback sac.

    and

    2.) Give me access to the steering cable / rudder to investigate why my steerring is so tight.

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    • CMW
      • Aug 2011
      • 66

      • englewood co


      #3
      Did you end up pulling the other tank and just running fat sacs in the rear?

      I'm thinking of doing the same thing to my08 210 and would be interested in any advice....

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      • Chad52
        • May 2004
        • 295

        • Huntsville, AL

        • 2008 Super Air Nautique 210 2003 Super Air Nautique Team 210 2001 Super Air Nautique Team 210 1999 Super Air Nautique 210 1994 Mastercraft Prostar 190 1992 Manta Ray 189 Sport

        #4
        Yep, that's exactly what I did. I now have 750's on both sides. It takes 2 cycles of the pumps to fill. I actually need a bit more weight in the nose now. The increase in storage room space is well worth it.

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        • Nordicron
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Sep 2009
          • 557

          • Madison, WI


          #5
          Originally posted by Chad52 View Post
          Yep, that's exactly what I did. I now have 750's on both sides. It takes 2 cycles of the pumps to fill. I actually need a bit more weight in the nose now. The increase in storage room space is well worth it.
          For some reason this math does not add up to me? I have the sacs on top of my tanks and it takes almost 2 full cycles to fill my sac. So basically it takes me 3 cycles(one for tank and 2 more for sack). So how is just the sac able to hold more than the sac and tank together? Don't get it.

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          • Chad52
            • May 2004
            • 295

            • Huntsville, AL

            • 2008 Super Air Nautique 210 2003 Super Air Nautique Team 210 2001 Super Air Nautique Team 210 1999 Super Air Nautique 210 1994 Mastercraft Prostar 190 1992 Manta Ray 189 Sport

            #6
            What size sac are you using? My old configuration had the tank and a wedge sac, which is not nearly as big as the 750. If you were using a 750 on top of the tank, then yeah I could see 3 cycles. The 750 takes 2 cycles on mine.

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            • krt
              • Sep 2008
              • 231

              • La Verne

              • 2008 210 SAN TE

              #7
              Originally posted by Chad52 View Post
              What size sac are you using? My old configuration had the tank and a wedge sac, which is not nearly as big as the 750. If you were using a 750 on top of the tank, then yeah I could see 3 cycles. The 750 takes 2 cycles on mine.
              I have this same set up, and I agree, it takes 3 cycles
              2008 SAN 210 TE
              1997 Ski Brendella (sold)

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              • Nordicron
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Sep 2009
                • 557

                • Madison, WI


                #8
                Originally posted by Chad52 View Post
                What size sac are you using? My old configuration had the tank and a wedge sac, which is not nearly as big as the 750. If you were using a 750 on top of the tank, then yeah I could see 3 cycles. The 750 takes 2 cycles on mine.
                I'm using 750's on top of tank. The way I read your first post was that a person could get more weight in back by removing the tank and going with just the 750's vs piggy backing the 750 over the tank which isn't true. I didn't realize you were comparing having 1 750 vs tank and wedge sac.

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                • perry386
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 560

                  • gadsden AL

                  • Super Air nautique 236

                  #9
                  I've got the stock 2000 pound ballast in my 08 230 plus the fly high sac package on top. So all total I have 4000 pounds and only takes two pump cycles to fill it all so there is something wrong it you need two to just fill your 750s.

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                  • perry386
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 560

                    • gadsden AL

                    • Super Air nautique 236

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nordicron View Post
                    I'm using 750's on top of tank. The way I read your first post was that a person could get more weight in back by removing the tank and going with just the 750's vs piggy backing the 750 over the tank which isn't true. I didn't realize you were comparing having 1 750 vs tank and wedge sac.
                    Well if you have a 750 under the floor and 500 piggy backing then you get 250 more pounds. If that helps any.

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                    • Nordicron
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 557

                      • Madison, WI


                      #11
                      Originally posted by perry386 View Post
                      I've got the stock 2000 pound ballast in my 08 230 plus the fly high sac package on top. So all total I have 4000 pounds and only takes two pump cycles to fill it all so there is something wrong it you need two to just fill your 750s.
                      Didn't think the 230 came "stock" with 2000lbs???

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                      • CMW
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 66

                        • englewood co


                        #12
                        Removed my rear tanks this weekend... found an easier way to remove (my 2 cents)... on my 08 210 if i removed the plastic engine divider and remove the aluminum channel (5 screws) it sat in i could lift them out of the rear hatch.... seemed easier than squeezing it through rear seat.

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                        • Neverenough
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 907

                          • Ft. Worth Texas

                          • G

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jasonwyrick View Post
                          Removed my rear tanks this weekend... found an easier way to remove (my 2 cents)... on my 08 210 if i removed the plastic engine divider and remove the aluminum channel (5 screws) it sat in i could lift them out of the rear hatch.... seemed easier than squeezing it through rear seat.
                          Same on the 220. Pull divider and channel. Be aware that a sac will break the divider and you will need to reinforce it. Plenty of threads about it here. I'm worki g on something that ill be selling that I believe we will all love. Should have ready by next week.

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