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  • wakejunky
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2003
    • 679

    • Ca

    • 2003 SAN

    #16
    I must say one thing about the locataion of the 03' impellors, that is they are a b*tch to change out. The problem is that they are super tight within the housing and the thing just doesn't want to come out. And if you have a v-drive it makes for on the water changes even more difficult, the impellor is down below the muffler. At least in the 04' they went to serpentine belt and relocated the pump on the top of the engine. Then at least you stand a chance of actually getting it out.

    Chris

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    • skinautique
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 1749

      • Colorado


      #17
      I will agree they are tough but you can get to them. You have to be really flexible (your body that is)!

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      • ozarkcountry
        • Jul 2010
        • 2


        • 1989 ski nautique 2001

        #18
        pump impeller for '89 ski nautique 2001

        Can anyone tell me the part number for this water pump impeller? Is it something I can purchase at any marine dealers or is it something that must be special ordered?

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        • Red57Bird
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Aug 2007
          • 381

          • Raleigh, NC/Lake Gaston

          • 2003 Super Air

          #19
          Originally posted by wakejunky View Post
          I must say one thing about the locataion of the 03' impellors, that is they are a b*tch to change out. The problem is that they are super tight within the housing and the thing just doesn't want to come out. And if you have a v-drive it makes for on the water changes even more difficult, the impellor is down below the muffler. At least in the 04' they went to serpentine belt and relocated the pump on the top of the engine. Then at least you stand a chance of actually getting it out.

          Chris
          Chris - one trick I picked up from another thread was to use two paint can openers to pull the old impeller out. I also use some boot lube as well to help coax it out. First time I replaced it was a chore, but now it isn't so bad. Only thing is that I don't like having to take the pump out of the boat each time.
          2003 SAN (current)
          2003 Chaparral 220 SSi (sold)

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          • east tx skier
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 1561

            • Tyler, TX


            #20
            We have pretty silty water around here. I change mine every spring without fail. I have seen people that boat on the same body of water lose his while making a run at a two year impeller change. I regularly used his boat as well. His temp ran right around 160 until it didn't. It climbed fast and, fortunately, the high temp was noticed before any damage was done. We then spent the better part of the afternoon backflushing and pulling little bits of impeller out of the nooks and crannies of the engine. I would have rather him paid $20--$30 so that we could have gone skiing instead or done anything else for that matter.

            I change mine in the spring. If I were going to try to make it two years, I would take it out at winterization and store it in a ziploc bag. When you leave them in over the winter, they become pretty well formed to the irregular shape of the pump housing during the long layup and lose a bit of efficiency as water movers as a result.

            Again, this is just what I do. The cheap insurance answer is the short one. And I don't miss one bit of the drop in the barrel I have spent on impellers while I have owned inboards. Knock on wood. I have never had one go bad on me and have never backflushed my cooling system when I should have been skiing.

            YMMV
            1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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            • gping43
              • Jun 2011
              • 4

              • Wenatchee WA

              • 1999 SNOB

              #21
              is it true that a bad impeller can lead to a louder engine? Took my impeller out today, it looks great. No wear, no signs of damage, but what the heck do I know. Could it still be "bad" without being visibly damaged?

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              • rhendle
                • Nov 2011
                • 2

                • Arcadia, OK

                • 2005 Air-Nautique SV-211

                #22
                Looking for a little guidance on the impeller replacement process. I have an 05 sv-211 PCM Excaliber 330 with a surp belt. I've located the pump but am curious if i have to pull the alternator with the pump or is there another way? Can the impeller be replaced while leaving the pump in place? Thanks!

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                • gdenkman
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 25

                  • Madisonville, LA

                  • 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow

                  #23
                  If you have ever had that feeling that you were really glad you did something, then you know how I feel. I just hit the 500 hour mark went through the standard maintenance items which included the impeller. The impeller had been changed each season or ever 100 hours, whichever came first, by the PO. This was my first impeller change experience, and based on the condition of this impeller, there is a reason the change schedule is every 100 hours or once per year.
                  1994 SNOB

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                  • gdenkman
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 25

                    • Madisonville, LA

                    • 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow

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                    • Pjoachim
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 124

                      • Wisconsin

                      • 2001 CB ski

                      #25
                      On my 2001 ski I changed the impeller every season or roughly 150hours. I saw the same thing every year. Cheap maintenance item to protect your engine in my opinion.
                      Wisconsin
                      2001 196 Ski Nautique
                      2013 200V Team Edition

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                      • ers906
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 921

                        • Phoenix AZ

                        • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

                        #26
                        Curious why the temp over 160 means that is when you inspect the impeller. Since it is responsible for drawing water into the system, by the time the temperature hits much over 160 then you are already in need of a new one. I would rather deal with potential problems on land, then deal with a certain problem on the water. I change my impeller each season (but that is approx 250-300 hours of engine hours). I also keep a spare on board and have learned to be very flexible when u need to be.
                        Eric, Phoenix AZ

                        G23 550 hp (finally here)
                        2002 Super Air
                        1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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                        • crobi2
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 337

                          • Texas

                          • 2000 Super Air Nautique

                          #27
                          That impeller looks like it ran dry for a little while at some point. I once saw an outboard impeller that looked like that after the intake got clogged and it ran dry for a few minutes.

                          The bearings on my 10 year old Sherwood went bad and it was sucking air up the shaft, ran hot and went into limp mode. When I got the impeller out, it still looked perfect i guess because it was still pulling enough water for lubrication, but not quite enough for engine cooling.

                          EDIT: grammar
                          Last edited by crobi2; 07-13-2013, 05:54 PM.
                          Rob
                          2000 SAN

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                          • jkallen21
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 399

                            • United States

                            • 2006 Super Air 220

                            #28
                            Where is it located? My dealer did mine last winter but I want to do it myself. 2006 SANTE.

                            Thanks

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                            • AirTool
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 4049

                              • Katy, Texas


                              #29
                              Originally posted by jkallen21 View Post
                              Where is it located? My dealer did mine last winter but I want to do it myself. 2006 SANTE.
                              Read this entire thread and then PM me.
                              http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...-PCM-Excalibur

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                              • solson324
                                • May 2018
                                • 1

                                • MN

                                • 1990 Ski Nautique

                                #30
                                Thanks everybody on this thread! I just bought a 1990 Ski Nautique this past weekend, and this thread helped me diagnose the impeller as faulty. Boat starts easy and idles great, but would heat up to about 180 F really fast. Would then slowly climb to about 200 while idling. As soon as I get moving the temp would start to drop to around 160. This thread convinced me to order a new impeller, and last night I took apart the old one. Safe to say I found the culprit.

                                My question now, besides checking lines, should I open up the risers to check for chunks? I checked all lines on the vacuum side of the RWP and they didnt have much, but the line directly on the other side had quite a bit. Thanks in advance.

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