Anyone Running a 1433 Prop on a 210?

[mbaumet]

My 06 SAN 210 had a 381 prop on it when I bought it for some reason........ 13.5" dia x 17.5 pitch. We've been running it that way for a few years. It's absolutely awful when we get anything above the factory ballast when wakeboarding, taking forever to get up on plane. I have to add more weight than I prefer to the bow to get it to plane out and then I get more of mellow as opposed to step wake for wakeboarding and it then proposes like crazy because of the bow weight.... It does just ok with an additional 1,600 lbs plus the factory ballast when surfing. We've just been dealing with it for too long and I finally want to replace with much more pitch. With the 381, I can run top end at 45mph but have absolutely no need to go that fast. No barefooting, just wakeboarding, surfing, wakeskating and the occasional skier/tuber.

I've looked at going to the 1235 (14.5x14.25), but don't want to risk the gelcoat burn. It appears that the 1433 (14x14.25 ) may be a real good fit with the same pitch as the 1235 (14.5x14.25) but slightly smaller diameter. Or even a 1579 (13.5x14.25) would be a large improvement over what I currently have, it seems anything would give me a better wholeshot than that 381....

I'm just looking for some feedback as to what I can expect from the 1433 (14x14.25) if anyone else is running one. I assume that I'm on the right track by changing the prop. Any feedback would be appreciated.

[core-rider]

I have no personal experience with the 1433, (mine is a 2003 RH rotation) but I have been looking seriously at the 1846 (RH version of the 1433 with a bit more cup). I'm currently running the 1464 (old 1578). The 1579 would be a huge improvment over what you have now. You are running close to the same amount of weight as I am. You will loose about 5-7 MPH on top, but you said that doesn't really matter. I run about 33 MPH @ 4000 RPMs.

I've also been looking at the 1616 (14.0 x 13.75 .105 cup 4 blade) and the 2132 (14.0 x 13.5 .105 cup 5 blade) because I'm looking to remove the hard tanks and add weight next season. I think the 1464 might struggle a bit running 2500+ pounds.

If you do go with the 1433 take some pics/measurments of the gap between the hull and prop for me. I know running more diameter would help, just worried about prop rash.

[mbaumet]

I have no personal experience with the 1433, (mine is a 2003 RH rotation) but I have been looking seriously at the 1846 (RH version of the 1433 with a bit more cup). I'm currently running the 1464 (old 1578). The 1579 would be a huge improvment over what you have now. You are running close to the same amount of weight as I am. You will loose about 5-7 MPH on top, but you said that doesn't really matter. I run about 33 MPH @ 4000 RPMs.

I've also been looking at the 1616 (14.0 x 13.75 .105 cup 4 blade) and the 2132 (14.0 x 13.5 .105 cup 5 blade) because I'm looking to remove the hard tanks and add weight next season. I think the 1464 might struggle a bit running 2500+ pounds.

If you do go with the 1433 take some pics/measurments of the gap between the hull and prop for me. I know running more diameter would help, just worried about prop rash.

You top out at 33MPH with the 1579 equivalent? What motor is in the 2003, the GT40? How long does it take for you to plane out with that 1464?

Now the 5 blade is an option as well. I wonder what the performance of a 5 blade compared to a 4 blade would be... Probably would provide more pull with large amounts of ballast.

I'm leaning towards the 1433 still, I definitely do not want prop burn with a custom paint job on my boat. So I think the 1235 is out. If I go that route, I'll take some pics and post. However, I may not get to it until the offseason. We're on the boat anytime we have free time, 80 hrs already this season.

[core-rider]

You top out at 33MPH with the 1579 equivalent? What motor is in the 2003, the GT40? How long does it take for you to plane out with that 1464?

Now the 5 blade is an option as well. I wonder what the performance of a 5 blade compared to a 4 blade would be... Probably would provide more pull with large amounts of ballast.

I'm leaning towards the 1433 still, I definitely do not want prop burn with a custom paint job on my boat. So I think the 1235 is out. If I go that route, I'll take some pics and post. However, I may not get to it until the offseason. We're on the boat anytime we have free time, 80 hrs already this season.

33 isn't top speed, I just know that my boat does 33 @ 4000. I have the Excalibur 330. I haven't ever put a stopwatch on plane time, but I can tell you seat of the pants is much better than the 644 I came from. I planned on timing all the props I try once I get some cash together and get them. I've read conflicting reviews about 5 blade vs. 4 blade. Some like it, some hate it. ACME told me awhile back that the way the props are made a 14" 4 blade was just a bit larger in diameter than a 14" 5 blade so the 5 blade may actually give less chance for prop burn. They also said they recieved many mixed reviews between 4/5 blade props. I just put it in the mix because of the pitch and some say the extra blade helps with "bite" out of the hole. With all that said, all the newer boats are still running 4 blades... including the G23.

[OKWAKEBDR]

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...highlight=1617

1433 is between the 1617 and 1579. I'm running the 1617 and love it.

[Brichter14]

How do u tell what prop u have already? Mine just says legend on it

[s_kelley2000]

How do u tell what prop u have already? Mine just says legend on it

That is an OJ Legend I assume and likely the stock 14" diameter by 18" pitch. If you take the castle nut off, the diameter and pitch should be stamped on the hub. Some props also have it stamped on the side of the hub between blades so you don't have to remove the castle nut but I don't think OJ was doing that back then.

[thedude]

I had the 1433 on an 07 SAN 210 and it was a great prop, we ran about 1500 lbs + people before I sold the boat, but that prop jumped on plane in no time.

I now have the 1464 on a 2003 210 with the excal 330, and like what was said above, the prop is awesome when running about 2500lbs + people. I would look to get the LH rotation equivalent of the 1464. Call ACME, they'll probably tell you the same thing.

[Brichter14]

That is an OJ Legend I assume and likely the stock 14" diameter by 18" pitch. If you take the castle nut off, the diameter and pitch should be stamped on the hub. Some props also have it stamped on the side of the hub between blades so you don't have to remove the castle nut but I don't think OJ was doing that back then.

Is this a decent prop? I put about 1000 lbs of ballast in the boat the other day and it had no trouble planing. My plans are double that in ballast, roughly 2100 so will I need to get a different prop? Sorry to hijack

[seth]

Yes, I dont think you will be able to plane with 2100 and the OJ 14x18. If you do it will take forever. Once you put a better prop on there, you will never run the OJ again. Well unless its your backup and you hit something.

[Brichter14]

Ok, wake makers says I need a acme 1578 for my 97 SS. Anybody else confirm this?

[crobi2]

Ok, wake makers says I need a acme 1578 for my 97 SS. Anybody else confirm this?

1578 or 1846 if you want to keep a 14" prop on there if that's what you originally had.

[crobi2]

Is this a decent prop? I put about 1000 lbs of ballast in the boat the other day and it had no trouble planing. My plans are double that in ballast, roughly 2100 so will I need to get a different prop? Sorry to hijack

Like Seth said, that 14 x 18 OJ will start having real troubles with 2100# especially if you have some people on board also. At 2500# it will take more than a half minute to get on plane and the engine really bogs.

[shawndoggy]

I've run both the 1433 and 1235 on my MB and they are virtually indistinguishable. You will get the performance you seek from the 1433.

[mbaumet]

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...highlight=1617

1433 is between the 1617 and 1579. I'm running the 1617 and love it.

This a great thread! Great info! Thanks for adding the link. I guess now I need to decide between the 1433 and 1617. I wonder if anyone has tests the 1433 to compare with these numbers. It would be interesting to see them side by side. I guess in all reality, I can't can't go wrong with either considering the current 381 on my boat now.