Oil Change is due I need to get an oil pump and want to know which one is recommended

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  • sheltonpg
    • Mar 2013
    • 66

    • Virginia

    • Nautique Super Air 230

    Oil Change is due I need to get an oil pump and want to know which one is recommended

    This is the first time that I will be changing the oil on my 08" SANTE 230. I have the PCM 409 and I would like to have any recommendations that you can give. I think I need to purchase an oil pump to hook up to the drain hose and want to know which one is recommended. I like the idea of an all in 1 deal pump and bottle together so that I can just put it in the back of the truck and dispose of it. I want to buy something that will last a long time because I am not the type of person to pay for things twice. 1 and done!
  • s_kelley2000
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 1575
    • Fort Meadow Recevoir

    • Mass

    • 2012 Super Air Nautique 230 1999 Nautique Super Sport with 502 Python (for Sale)

    #2
    Here's what you want. Don't forget the 10% site discount code: PND.

    http://www.nautiqueparts.com/asuck-uppump.aspx
    Shawn

    2012 Blue Metal Flake SAN 230

    1999 Black and Tan Python 502 Powered Super Sport (for Sale)

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    • AirTool
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 4049

      • Katy, Texas


      #3
      Add this fitting from Grainger and you can thread it right on your drain hose.
      Attached Files

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      • jsta281
        • Oct 2012
        • 266

        • Utah

        • 2009 Ski Nautique LE

        #4
        There are several pumps that effectively do the same thing. I use one called liquivac (8 qt capacity) and it works great. Also if you are going to drain out the hose through the hull get the fitting AirTool suggest. However, I have the same motor in my 206 and when I realized how small the orifice that is the brass fitting that is connected to the oil pan to which the oil drain tube is connected is, it is no wonder it takes a long time for oil to pass through it. Granted, with a vacuum pump attached and the oil warm, I am sure it comes out fine via the oil pan drain hose, but I opted to take it out through the dip stick tube, with the oil warm. I was shocked at how much oil came out, leaving me confident that I successfully removed all the oil.

        http://www.kotulas.com/deals/Product...p:OrderItemAdd

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        • Pjoachim
          • Apr 2013
          • 124

          • Wisconsin

          • 2001 CB ski

          #5
          I use the quick drain hose though bottom of the boat. Just put a 3 gallon bucket under neath it and it drains pretty quick and efficient. Nothing to buy.
          Wisconsin
          2001 196 Ski Nautique
          2013 200V Team Edition

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          • sodbuster88
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Nov 2008
            • 368

            • Clayton, NC


            #6
            Originally posted by Pjoachim View Post
            I use the quick drain hose though bottom of the boat. Just put a 3 gallon bucket under neath it and it drains pretty quick and efficient. Nothing to buy.
            Easy to do on your 196. Hard to do on a v-drive.
            Peace..

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            • shawndoggy
              • Aug 2011
              • 151

              • Reno

              • MB Sports TWB 23

              #7
              without doing a whole ton of research, I got the Pela 6000 from skidim.com when we got our first boat. I have no complaints and it works well for oil and tranny fluid changes.

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              • AirTool
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 4049

                • Katy, Texas


                #8
                Originally posted by jsta281 View Post
                ..., but I opted to take it out through the dip stick tube, with the oil warm. I was shocked at how much oil came out, leaving me confident that I successfully removed all the oil.
                Most of the oil comes out but sediment remains behind. You really should drain it out the hose if possible. Some engines don't provide the option...like mercruisers and others. But if the drain is there, you really should use it. A lot of sediment can build up over time.

                Before I got the suck up, I would let my 206 drain over night. I think it really took about 3 hours to all drain out. But now, with my suck up and that connector, I get it all out in less than a minute...and that fast rate brings any sediment with it.

                The last time w/the suck up, IIRC I cracked open the oil filter at the ramp to vent some air in. By the time I got home, I'm sure all the oil had drained to the pan and since it was still hot, it sucked out quickly.

                ALL: The benefit of the connector I recommend is that the nut is loose on the fitting...so you can thread it on the drain hose w/o the hose binding up. I think it was 12 bucks but worth it. Also by a plug so you can prevent leakage once you disconnect.
                Last edited by AirTool; 08-10-2013, 11:22 AM.

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                • coulseyd
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 26

                  • Suffolk, VA

                  • 2004 SANTE Black/White

                  #9
                  Airtool,
                  Do you remember the size? 3/8 hose barb x 1/4" fnpt? That sounds right, but I don't have my boat at the house to verify..
                  http://m.grainger.com/mobile/details/?R=6AFP1
                  does this look like the right one?
                  2004 SANTE

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                  • AirTool
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4049

                    • Katy, Texas


                    #10
                    Originally posted by coulseyd View Post
                    Airtool,
                    Do you remember the size? 3/8 hose barb x 1/4" fnpt? That sounds right, but I don't have my boat at the house to verify..
                    http://m.grainger.com/mobile/details/?R=6AFP1
                    does this look like the right one?
                    the 6AFP1 is what I have....the thread on your engine drain hose is 1/4" male npt. You need to double check the hose size with your pump. But the suck up I have is 3/8" i.d.

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                    • coulseyd
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 26

                      • Suffolk, VA

                      • 2004 SANTE Black/White

                      #11
                      Thanks! I have the SuckUp as well...
                      2004 SANTE

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                      • scottb7
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2198

                        • Carson City, Nevada

                        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                        #12
                        With the hose going to the oil pan there really is no reason to go thru the dipstick. I just drained my oil with out dripping a single drop. No changing the oil filter even with it upside down up front. Uhhh. Still a pain. Even when you use the bag over the filter it is still messy to drain it before discarding.

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                        • jonsquatch
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 251

                          • AZ

                          • 2012 Super Air Nautique Byerly Icon

                          #13
                          Thats one thing I will give the 2014's with that big flip up center section on the engine cover going all the way down to the seat/step area getting to the remote oil filter would be a piece of cake. Much easier than the smallish and oddly located window to work through. I always had a hard time with grip on a warm filter using a plastic bag, now I use a disposable soda cup from wherever I happen to have picked one up when I get ready to change the oil.

                          2012 Super Air Nautique 210 Byerly Icon Edition EX343 <-- Current Boat
                          2007 Reinell 185 BR Volvo Penta 4.3GL <-- Former Boat
                          1988 Bayliner 195 Capri OMC Cobra 5.0 <-- Former "starter" Boat

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                          • AirTool
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4049

                            • Katy, Texas


                            #14
                            Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
                            With the hose going to the oil pan there really is no reason to go thru the dipstick.
                            His reason is that it is more convenient...and I would agree...it is more convenient to go through the dipstick.

                            The 5.0L merc I used to maintain.....was so easy to suck the oil out of.

                            The problem is....I couldn't sleep for several nights after an oil change....thinking of all the coked oil particles that remained in the last 1/4" of nasty residue that didn't get sucked out.

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                            • scottb7
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2198

                              • Carson City, Nevada

                              • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                              #15
                              I disagree. I have the end of the hose hooked at top of engine, right on the bracket for oil filter. And there is still another couple feet of slack...

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