1986 Ski Nautique 351 Windsor commander motor

[core-rider]

Ok I bypassed the ballaster I'm getting spark to the spark plugs now but I'm a little confused on the firing order starting at #1 do I go clockwise like the rotor or counter clockwise 18456273

You will have to follow the rotation of the rotor for the firing order to ever work. What TRBenj mentions sounds correct to me as well. May need to look deeper into that.

Now fuel question not getting any up to carb . And does the ignition blower in back at fuel tank have tobe on to start

The blower needs to be on just from a safety stand-point, but no it doesn't have to be running to start the engine. Your fuel problem may just be a pump issue. Being a mechanical fuel pump, if the boat has set for a long time the diapham may have deteriated and has a hole in it causing the suction action from the tank to pump be compomised. May need to be rebuilt or replaced.

[fosterz]

That would explain alot. When I put some gas in top of carb to try to fire it it would blow it back up was not tthinking and now you say that I remimber thinking the carb is not sucking air like it should

[fosterz]

Ok I pulled starter and yep it spins clockwise. Where do I find a ford counter clockwise starter and fast

[fosterz]

Did I do damage cranking the engine the wrong direction

[AirTool]

Did I do damage cranking the engine the wrong direction

I'm thinking a very low chance of that. Especially if you didn't do it long. All the pieces should handle the loads.

The part I would worry about is the oil pump wouldn't be pumping. But the loads are so low...and there is no pressure in the cylinders to load the rings.

[s_kelley2000]

Ok I pulled starter and yep it spins clockwise. Where do I find a ford counter clockwise starter and fast

I am not sure if they have NAPA in Nevada but if so check with them. My local NAPA has a surprising amount of marine parts in stock and/or can order and get them within one day usually. Site sponser Nautiqueparts.com might have them and Discount Inboard Marine(skidim.com) will definitely have them and you might have luck calling some local marinas.

[fosterz]

Ok put in the right starter(counter clockwise starter) and she fired right up. Thanks for everyones help. 1800$ for the boat and 140$ for the starter not bad for my first boat. Now i have to water test it im sure i will be on here alot now thx

[AirTool]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25176[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]25177[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]25178[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]25179[/ATTACH]Ok put in the right starter(counter clockwise starter) and she fired right up. Thanks for everyones help. 1800$ for the boat and 140$ for the starter not bad for my first boat. Now i have to water test it im sure i will be on here alot now thx

Don't tell the dumb *** that put the wrong starter on.

[Mamigacz]

Incorrect.

If your rotor is in fact spinning clockwise as you crank the engine, then I am quite certain it will not run. You have the incorrect rotation starter installed and you are spinning the engine backwards. All Ford Windsors have rotors that spin counterclockwise regardless of engine rotation. It is not uncommon for uneducated previous owners to install automotive or LH marine starters on RH engines... Ive seen it many times.

The original engine would have been reverse (RH) rotation. FO = 18456273 Assuming that no one swapped it out for a LH engine, then you need a marine starter that spins CCW.

You will get much better information on CorrectCraftFan.com.

Sorry about the bad information. I assumed (bad assuption) the rotor spun backwards (clockwise) on a nonstandard rotation engine.

[fosterz]

Well ran true boat for about 15 to 20 min twice today using the bucket way raw water pump works good no leaks that I can see: Anything else I should do before I put it on the water next weekend

[fosterz]

Timing is set at 8 degrees before top dead center dose that sound right I tried 10 degrees but it sounded better at 8

[Mamigacz]

I think the recomendation from PCM is 6 degree's BTDC. I also run mine at 8 degree's BTDC. I have no detonation or hot start (starter kickback) issues with 87 octane gas.

[TRBenj]

It should run better if set to 10-12 initial (or maybe even a touch more). The Prestolites Ive measured never have more than 20deg of advance built in- and since the 351w should run best with 36deg final, you have to start a little higher to get close. 12 initial and 30-32 final is a decent compromise, Ive found. Setting initial in the 6-8 range has always resulted in a bog or pop when coming out of the hole- I never go less than 10.

[fosterz]

I was looking at the prop getting ready to put it in the water for the first time tomorrow and say the key way is this normal

[core-rider]

Nope! They installed the key upside-down. That pin you see at the back of the prop hub seats in the shaft to keep it from sliding out o place when the prop is pushed on the shaft. May want to take care of that.


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