Best cruise upgrade, 2011 210 + Prop question

[rjason]

14 1/2" prop is the largest diameter prop you can put on a 210.

[OKWAKEBDR]

Also need to know the current amount of clearence between the top edge of the prop and the hull...

Sounding like a candidate for a 2315/2313.

15" props will NOT fit a 210. 14.5" props aren't even recommended due to prop burn.

Best prop option in this situation is going to be the Acme 1433. 14x14.25

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...highlight=prop

[thomas205]

I got the prop measurement, a friend went round and had a look at the house. He says it was a little obscured but he thought it read " 1381 13.5 x 17.5 VL 1 1/8"

[thomas205]

So I had a look at the various threads on the prop options for a 210.

I would rather not risk the prop burn that comes with the 14.5.

It seems to come down to the 1617 vs the 1433. What is the major difference between these two?

[OKWAKEBDR]

It probably said 381, not 1381. The 381 is 13.5 x 17.5

The difference between 1617 and 1433 is 1/2" of pitch. The 1617 is the lower pitch, more aggressive of the two - meaning it will come out of the hole the fastest, but will run slightly higher rpms at wakeboarding speeds and will have lower top-end speed. You can see the specs on the 1617 posted in the previous thread that I gave a link to earlier. (The boat Jeff was doing the testing on is now my boat. I purchased it from him at the end of the 2012 season. So I can tell you whatever you need to know about the 1617, as well as several other props that we tested including 2 different 5-blades.)

Either prop is going to be a HUGE improvement over the 381. Since you have the 409, you may want to lean more towards the 1433. How much weight are you running? I run close to 3k in mine, and the 1617 is perfect, but I have the 343 engine. (I'm also about 95% wakeboarding, with only about a 10 minute boat ride from my dock to the river where we ride.) I can't even imagine running a 17.5" prop. It will feel like a completely different boat.

[thomas205]

Yer you were right it is 381. I actually just called ACME and they were very helpful. The guy there basically said the same as you in that the 1617 is probably going to be a little bit too aggressive and the 1433 is going to be perfect. Going to get one on order right now! Do wakeprops do a PN discount? Saw that mentioned somewhere?

[HS]

Yer you were right it is 381. I actually just called ACME and they were very helpful. The guy there basically said the same as you in that the 1617 is probably going to be a little bit too aggressive and the 1433 is going to be perfect. Going to get one on order right now! Do wakeprops do a PN discount? Saw that mentioned somewhere?

. . . or Delta for sure (I think the code the Delta discount is PN30)

[thomas205]

I got the 1433 through in the end. Out of interest what do you think is the most I will be able to run ballast wise with the 409 without the boat struggling out the hole too much?

[OKWAKEBDR]

I got the 1433 through in the end. Out of interest what do you think is the most I will be able to run ballast wise with the 409 without the boat struggling out the hole too much?

With that prop and that engine, you can run more ballast than the boat needs. I run close to 3k in mine, and I have the 343/1617 and it has no problem getting on plane.

The "money" set up on the 210 is:
1100 lbs in each rear locker
stock center hard tank
tube sack in the ski locker
integrated bow sack up front

That will be in the range of 3500 lbs. The wake/wave is terrific, and isn't going to get much better with more weight. You'll have no problem getting the boat on plane.

[jim lindsay]

OKWAKEBDR we have just purchased 2007 210 and are running about #3000 extra ballast with the 343 and a stock 13x17.5 we need to change props and add more weight
We are leaning towards the 1433 but like the data on the 1617 what will do the best job IYO we are at sea level

[swatguy]

1617 all the way. Don't even waste you time with the 1433. Only reason to opt for the 1433 over the 1617 is if you ski 50% of the time. Other Thant that wake and surf 1617 is the prop.

[OKWAKEBDR]

OKWAKEBDR we have just purchased 2007 210 and are running about #3000 extra ballast with the 343 and a stock 13x17.5 we need to change props and add more weight
We are leaning towards the 1433 but like the data on the 1617 what will do the best job IYO we are at sea level

It comes down to how much non-weighted activities you do. When my brother is in town and wants to ski, I put my 1578 back on. But other than that, we spend very little time cruising or other non-weighted activities, so I like the 1617. I can't believe you can even get the boat on plane with the 381 and that much weight. Both props are going to be night and day different from what you have.

[jim lindsay]

thanks for the info