Aerator vs ballast puppy

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  • 99SAN
    • Oct 2010
    • 172

    • Roll Tide


    #1

    Aerator vs ballast puppy

    So I'm plumbing my ballast and was going to use my 3 750 tsunami to drain and buy 3 800 tsunami, to fill 2rear 750s and a 680 locker sac. So the 3 800s will cost about 75$ and 3 new ballast puppies will cost 700$. I notice most people use the ballast puppies but seeing the cost im not sure why. They both will get the job done but the aerators are cheaper.
  • Brichter14
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jun 2013
    • 531

    • Central Illinois

    • 97 Nautique Super Sport 2010 Wakesetter 23 LSV 2020 Nautique G23

    #2
    Im a year into my aerator system. No problems at all. I have 1200s to fill and 800s to drain. Check my thread in the show nautique forum. Round page 4

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    • surroundsound64
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 2147

      • Longview, TX

      • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

      #3
      I went ballast puppies because of simplicity. They are high.
      2018 SAN 230
      1981 Ski Nautique
      Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
      Sold - 2000 SAN

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      • gome123
        • Apr 2014
        • 199

        • ID

        • 2005 SAN 210 Team

        #4
        My System also uses Aerator pumps. The only thing that sucks is getting the fill to prime. But not a big deal, just put the boat to troll and once it has prime it fills just fine. Drain is problem as the water level is always above the pump and always primed.

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        • Mikeski
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 2908

          • San Francisco, CA

          • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

          #5
          Aerators:
          Plus: pump large volumes of water fast, quiet, don't burn up impellers, low power draw, inexpensive
          Minus: need valves, can lose prime, flow water through them when turned off

          Impellers:
          Plus: don't need valves, self priming,
          Minus: high power draw, burn up impellers if they run dry, noisy, expensive

          I redesigned my ballast system on my 2005 SV211 completely. I use impeller fill pumps with no valves and aerator tank mounted pumps to drain the tanks. Has worked fast and flawlessly since 2009. I think my approach might be the best way to do it, just not the cheapest.

          System design is much more critical with aerator pumps to avoid unwanted water transfer. Needs to include check valves and siphon breaks to work correctly. Just remember, water flows downhill...

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          • obd666
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Feb 2010
            • 793

            • Bostian Heights, NC

            • 03 SANTE

            #6
            this has been a hotly debated topic for many years now. you can find lots of threads breaking down the merits of each as summarized by mikeski above ... for my money its a no contest when you consider the cost and maintenance of each. the aerators can be run dry, basically never tear up and are cheap to replace if they did. and on top of that, they move lots of water quick. as for stopping unwanted water just get the electric valves and wire them to open only when the fill pumps are on, works perfect.
            2003 SANTE - "OG 210"

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            • gome123
              • Apr 2014
              • 199

              • ID

              • 2005 SAN 210 Team

              #7
              ^^ What ODB666 says... it has been debated. Do as much reading as possible. Then think about what your ideal system is and go with it. (budge may also play a factor) My buddy in his X-Star changed all his fill pumps to puppies and he loves it.

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              • Miljack
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 1616

                • Charlotte, NC

                • '08 230 TE ZR6

                #8
                I'll post my $0.02. I have had both styles of pumps, and IF you can setup the aerators to ALWAYS prime, they will be faster. The problem is getting that prime, especially if you're using them for bags to empty. My homebuilt setup used 6 pumps total, 3 x 1200 to fill, and 3 x 800 to empty. I used a RV wastegate and enlarged the thru-hull size to 1 1/2" (I think) and built a manifold to feed the fill pumps, if I had to do it again, I would have built a bigger manifold, but space was a problem in my direct drive boat. In the trunk, I was able to get the pumps a few inches below the bags, and they were able to prime the empty pumps well, but in the belly locker, I wasn't able to do that and priming that empty pump sometimes was an issue.
                The impeller pumps (Jabsco, water puppy, etc) are noisy and slower and use more power, but, they can overcome the head pressure that most retrofitted ballast systems will have to deal with.

                Have fun, most likely an off-season project...
                2008 230 TE-ZR6
                1999 Pro Air Python-sold and moved away :-(

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