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  • isenbed
    • Nov 2009
    • 16

    • Knoxville, TN


    210 Ballast Tank Gauges

    I have a 2008 SAN210 with the factory ballast system. Everything still works normal except the rear ballast gauges do not show less than half full when empty. The floats are moving freely, and they work fine above half-full. I do not see any adjustment, and it is strange that they both started malfunctioning at the same time. The belly gauge still works correctly. Any thoughts?
    2008 210 Team
    2006 SV211 Team
    1995 ProStar 190 LT-1
  • BoardSkier
    • Jun 2014
    • 252

    • Lake Anna, Virginia

    • Air Nautique 226

    #2
    My belly tank guage did the same thing. I replaced the sending unit and works fine.
    2005 Air Nautique 226
    Supra Comp (prior)

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    • Nordicron
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Sep 2009
      • 557

      • Madison, WI


      #3
      Originally posted by isenbed View Post
      I have a 2008 SAN210 with the factory ballast system. Everything still works normal except the rear ballast gauges do not show less than half full when empty. The floats are moving freely, and they work fine above half-full. I do not see any adjustment, and it is strange that they both started malfunctioning at the same time. The belly gauge still works correctly. Any thoughts?
      How do u know the floats are moving freely? Did you pop them out an look at them? Are u certain that the rods aren't bent?


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      • scottb7
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2198

        • Carson City, Nevada

        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

        #4
        just pull the sender out and move it up and down and see if the gauges move all the way. you can even pull the belly one and temporarily hook to one of the other gauges to test the gauge.

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        • isenbed
          • Nov 2009
          • 16

          • Knoxville, TN


          #5
          Thanks for the replies, I did pull the sending units to check the floats. Both rods are bent, but I assumed they were this way from the factory to fit the depth of the tank. I will try pulling the belly sending unit and hooking it up to the rear gauges.
          2008 210 Team
          2006 SV211 Team
          1995 ProStar 190 LT-1

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          • Nordicron
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Sep 2009
            • 557

            • Madison, WI


            #6
            Originally posted by isenbed View Post
            Thanks for the replies, I did pull the sending units to check the floats. Both rods are bent, but I assumed they were this way from the factory to fit the depth of the tank. I will try pulling the belly sending unit and hooking it up to the rear gauges.
            Nope they are supposed to be straight. At some point your tanks collapsed bending the rods. Guessing u have overflow bags hooked in without the proper breathing tubes inserted in the bags which caused vacuum effect.


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            • isenbed
              • Nov 2009
              • 16

              • Knoxville, TN


              #7
              I guess it was a little of both, I straightened the rods and one works now the other is still stuck at half. I do have overflow ballast which has worked great for several years. I never completely filled it till this year though, so I assume the extra weight must have collapsed the tanks. Time to buy some aluminum and build a platform for the extra bags!
              2008 210 Team
              2006 SV211 Team
              1995 ProStar 190 LT-1

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              • Nordicron
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Sep 2009
                • 557

                • Madison, WI


                #8
                Originally posted by isenbed View Post
                I guess it was a little of both, I straightened the rods and one works now the other is still stuck at half. I do have overflow ballast which has worked great for several years. I never completely filled it till this year though, so I assume the extra weight must have collapsed the tanks. Time to buy some aluminum and build a platform for the extra bags!
                I don't think the extra weight is what causes it. I believe that emptying ballast while underway(20mph+) and causing a vacuum in the tank is what does it. I collapsed mine a couple times prior to installing my breather tubes. Been good for several yrs now and my 750 bags are filled full almost everytime out.


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                • isenbed
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 16

                  • Knoxville, TN


                  #9
                  I have the wakemakers system. Don't really see how a vacuum can form with the overflow lines. Where did you install breather tubes?
                  2008 210 Team
                  2006 SV211 Team
                  1995 ProStar 190 LT-1

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                  • isenbed
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 16

                    • Knoxville, TN


                    #10
                    Was the bag collapsing flat and blocking the overflow line?
                    2008 210 Team
                    2006 SV211 Team
                    1995 ProStar 190 LT-1

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                    • Nordicron
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 557

                      • Madison, WI


                      #11
                      Originally posted by isenbed View Post
                      Was the bag collapsing flat and blocking the overflow line?
                      Yes bag collapses and pumps keep trying to suck water outa tank but bag doesn't allow venting. There's a thread on here with pics, I just can't remember what it's called.


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                      • 2009216v
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 88

                        • Charlotte, NC

                        • 2019 G23 2009 216V (Sold) 1997 Sport Nautique (Sold)

                        #12
                        if anyone remembers that particular thread, I would be very interested in reading it. I too have the wakemakers setup and my gauges dont always seem to be accurate. I have probably created the same issue with my boat by not having the vent tubes. I understand the vent tube concept to allow it to flow through the collapsed bag but I just need more info regarding size of tub, how long, does the tube just lay inside the length of the bag, etc.
                        thanks in advance for any info that could help the two of us.

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                        • isenbed
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 16

                          • Knoxville, TN


                          #13
                          Here is the solution that I finally came up with. I made tables out of 3/4" marine plywood and galvanized angle to lay the rear bags on. I always thought it was a little sketchy to place 400 lbs on top of a plastic tank. Then to prevent a vacuum collapse I put a T in between the main tank and bag with a check valve. About $10 from Lowes.
                          2008 210 Team
                          2006 SV211 Team
                          1995 ProStar 190 LT-1

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                          • 2009216v
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 88

                            • Charlotte, NC

                            • 2019 G23 2009 216V (Sold) 1997 Sport Nautique (Sold)

                            #14
                            What is the purpose/end result of the T check valve?

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