2014 & newer 210 prop choices?

[Nautique1984]

I have a 2014 210 with Pro ballast and came stock with the 1579, it's a dog getting out of the hole with loaded stock ballast and about 6 people, looking for an upgrade.

[seachicken27]

I agree, it almost will not get on plane with the stock prop. I will be upgrading as well.

[Nautique1984]

Forgot to mention I even have the 409

[Evening Shade]

My 2011 210 has the ZR450 engine and it struggles getting on plane with the 1579. Thats with stock ballast, 600# sacks in the rear compartments, and about 6 people on board. I'm looking for more prop as well. Need to measure clearance to see if I can go with a larger diameter prop. Eric at OJ told me I need at least 1" clearance. Having said that, I don't know what prop burn is, but I'm assuming this is why Eric recommended at least 1" of clearance.

[swatguy]

Here you guys go looking for the prop. Scroll through. Just went with 1617 over the stock 1465/1579. Bust upgrade ever for my 343. Not sure with the 409 but I imagine since the stock prop is the same in the 1579, the upgrade would be as well. Diameter is really the limiting factor on the 210. I am not turning nearly the rpms I thought I would be so its actually working good on the ski side as well. Very very happy.
http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo...ettleprops-com

[Markonline]

My 2011 210 has the ZR450 engine and it struggles getting on plane with the 1579. Thats with stock ballast, 600# sacks in the rear compartments, and about 6 people on board.

Any ballast in the bow? Sounds like your weight is skewed too far aft.

[jharris]

I'm ordering my 1617 tonight. Been waiting for the feedback from Swatguy. Really disappointed with the stock prop and full factory ballast. Last week had some hard core riders out the out boat, full ballast and 8 people on the boat and it took forever to get on plane. Had to move people into the bow to get it going. Really hoping the 1617 makes a difference. I guess I'm spoiled coming from a SN200 for course skiing, I just expect the boat to pop up on plane.

[Evening Shade]

Markonline, you are correct I do need some weight in the bow. Just haven't gotten to that yet. Maybe that will resolve my under propped issue. I'm not really looking forward to plumbing in a piggyback kit after all the trouble I've had with getting my rear piggyback kits to fill and drain properly. That issue still isn't resolved....

[uwhusky]

I realize this is a really old thread but is very relevant to me right now.

I'm running a 2015 SANTE 210 with PCM 450 and all upgraded ballast, NSS, etc. I have a 1579 (13.5" x 14.25"). It was damaged recently and is being fixed.

Could I put a 1235 on (14.5" x 14.25") or do I risk doing something bad? Am I ok as long as there's 3/4' to 1" of clearance or is there more to it than that?

The people fixing the prop looked in their "spec book" and told me I should not go above 14" diameter.

[swatguy]

There is a new prop that has been launched by Acme to fill the void and need for the diameter restriction on the 210. It’s the Acme 2571. It’s a beast. I’ve been through the 1579/1433/1617 and now run the 2571. The holeshot from this prop is hands down the best of all those. It’s a must for any serious wakeboarder running heavy weight.

[swatguy]

I realize this is a really old thread but is very relevant to me right now.

I'm running a 2015 SANTE 210 with PCM 450 and all upgraded ballast, NSS, etc. I have a 1579 (13.5" x 14.25"). It was damaged recently and is being fixed.

Could I put a 1235 on (14.5" x 14.25") or do I risk doing something bad? Am I ok as long as there's 3/4' to 1" of clearance or is there more to it than that?

The people fixing the prop looked in their "spec book" and told me I should not go above 14" diameter.

Can you run a 1235 short term while yours is getting fixed……. yes. That short period of time you should be absolutely fine. Long therm running a prop with that minimal clearance could lead to prop burn. Some have run the 1235 long term with no issues , others have experienced burn. Temporarily tossing a 1235 on there will work fine.

[uwhusky]

swatguy thanks for your feedback and re-assurance. What exactly is prop burn?

I plan to run the 1235 for 3 days, at about 3 to 4 hours on the lake per day. By then, my 1579 should be fixed and I'll go back to that.

Meanwhile, I may look around locally and see if I can find either a 2571 or a 1617.

[swatguy]

uwhusky Prop burn is what happenes to your gelcoat right where the prop blade is closest to the hull of the boat. Due to the blade being so close to the hull ( closer than the desired gap your prop dealer told you was required ) the blade spinning fast and so close will begin to wear out the gelcoat under there and thin it out in some cases all the way to the bare fiberglass. , it’s not usually an overnight event and it basically occurs from repeated use. , the prop and prop
washe basically create enough for force to “sand down” your gelcoat there. I’ve run the 1235 in the past for about 2 weeks when I dinged my prop with no signs of anything. The bad part is once you put that 1235 on therr you’re going to hate your 1579 and realize their power prop isn’t power at all. It was at the time way back when , but there have been so many props built inbetween the inception of that prop that maximize performance , if you ride with anything over factory or a big crew it’s worth uopgrading.

I did a full write up linking all the props if you do a search.

what you have to decide is this. If you do a lot of Wide open throttle cruising , slalom ski more than say 30% of time I’d definitely not do the 2571. You’ll rip through fuel at the top end there, But if you cruise lake usually at wakeboard speeds , wakeboard or surf majority of time then you’ll benefit from making that jump to 2571 greatly. Its an aggressive prop It will perform very similarly to the 1235. If you want a happy medium the 1617 is a noticeable upgrade holeshot wise over the 1579 and won’t kill the top end fuel consumption as much, but it’s still noticeably slower than the 2571 out of the hole

[MN Ryan]

swatguy Is there a general rule of thumb on distance between the blade and hull to avoid prop burn?

[swatguy]

swatguy Is there a general rule of thumb on distance between the blade and hull to avoid prop burn?

There is per say a standard. There are multiple factors ie prop diameter /rpm range/and pitch that go into account to determine the proper gap clearance. So inboard cruisers, yachts , and bigger boats have different clearances standards , but for our comp boats there is a “ general accepted standard”. I don’t recall that exact number off the top of my head right now for the 210 , but the 1235 is just over that accepted clearance on the 210 ever so slightly . The 1235 is 14.5 diameter and the 1617/2571 are 14’s. So The 1235 is 1/4 inch over that accepted standard . The prop companies will not recommend it for the 08-present 210 because of it. That quarter inch seems so marginal , but with gel coat molds having small thickness variations from mold to mold , that 1/4 could be more or less in actual measurements on two of the same rigs side by side.