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  • t.franscioni
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jun 2014
    • 715

    • United States

    • 2002 SANTE

    #16
    Here is pic of FCC fuel canister and the sticker with instructions you need.
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    • brock.higdon
      • Oct 2014
      • 190

      • Auburn AL

      • 2001 SAN

      #17
      Am I correct in assuming the FCC and the high pressure fuel pump are the same thing? I'm going to go to the lake after work today and try to pull it off the boat. Anything special to get the FCC off the boat?

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      • t.franscioni
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jun 2014
        • 715

        • United States

        • 2002 SANTE

        #18
        Yes.

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        • t.franscioni
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jun 2014
          • 715

          • United States

          • 2002 SANTE

          #19
          Should be able to unscrew the canister without removing the canister bracket and everything. May need to move some hoses out the way to pull the canister all the way off and expose the filter and pump.

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          • brock.higdon
            • Oct 2014
            • 190

            • Auburn AL

            • 2001 SAN

            #20
            Wasn't able to make it to the lake. Want to go ahead and get parts ordered to try and salvage this coming up weekend. Do I need anything other than these two?

            http://www.skidim.com/PUMP-FUEL-PCM-...nfo/RA080025A/

            http://www.skidim.com/KIT-FILTER-ORI...info/RP080026/

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            • t.franscioni
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jun 2014
              • 715

              • United States

              • 2002 SANTE

              #21
              Assuming your problem is in fact your high pressure fuel pump and or fuel filter then yes that is all you need to fix the problem. That and plenty of tools naturally...can never have enough tools. Hopefully your back up and running for your lake trip this weekend.

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              • brock.higdon
                • Oct 2014
                • 190

                • Auburn AL

                • 2001 SAN

                #22
                Just ordered both relays, filter kit, and pump from Nautique parts 2nd day air. Hopefully that gets me going.

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                • DLafont
                  • May 2009
                  • 340

                  • Gatineau Qc

                  • 2000 Pro Air Nautique 1990 Ski Nautique

                  #23
                  Like others have indicated, getting into the FCC can be a chore. Rather simple to remove from the boat itself but opening the thing up can be an adventure. The HPP is inside the FCC, along with the fuel filter..Good luck with the repairs!
                  Current : 2000 Pro Air Nautique, Silver&Black accents, pulled by 2012 black Chevy Tahoe
                  Previous: 1990 Ski Nautique

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                  • brock.higdon
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 190

                    • Auburn AL

                    • 2001 SAN

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DLafont View Post
                    Like others have indicated, getting into the FCC can be a chore. Rather simple to remove from the boat itself but opening the thing up can be an adventure. The HPP is inside the FCC, along with the fuel filter..Good luck with the repairs!
                    I have a set of rubber strap wrenches and a pair of oil filter vicegrips. Going to try to take canister off on the boat first. If it wont come, ill take the whole thing off and bring back home.

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                    • cb
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 26

                      • Battle Ground, WA

                      • 2004 216 Limited

                      #25
                      Had a similar issue, without the fuse popping, turned out to be bad gas. Totally my fault for poor winterizing procedure...

                      The long story...while at Lake Shasta, ran into the same problems on the water. After getting the tow back to the dock and pulling the boat out of the water to diagnose on the trailer, we were able to hear the Low Pressure Fuel Pump working, so attention was directed at the FCC. Once we got the FCC off, we went through the process of replacing the fuel filter in the FCC: which didn't fix it. Then we replaced the HPP inside the FCC. Since no boat shops had the part, we went to an auto parts store. They were cross reference the pump to an obscure car, an Alfa Romero if I recall correctly. Installed that, still no fix.

                      On a whim, while we were at the store, my buddy had grabbed a bottle of the Lucas Fuel Injector Treatment "Tune up in a Bottle". We had a full tank of gas so we had to slosh the boat around to where it sort of mixed in. We ran it on a hose for a bit, still sputtered but was getting better. Dropped the boat in the water to use rollers to help mix, once fully mixed in, we were good to go, full power under load. Always winterize with pure gas AND fuel stabilizer and run the boat for a while to make sure it gets all the way into the injectors.

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                      • brock.higdon
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 190

                        • Auburn AL

                        • 2001 SAN

                        #26
                        Originally posted by cb View Post
                        Had a similar issue, without the fuse popping, turned out to be bad gas. Totally my fault for poor winterizing procedure...

                        The long story...while at Lake Shasta, ran into the same problems on the water. After getting the tow back to the dock and pulling the boat out of the water to diagnose on the trailer, we were able to hear the Low Pressure Fuel Pump working, so attention was directed at the FCC. Once we got the FCC off, we went through the process of replacing the fuel filter in the FCC: which didn't fix it. Then we replaced the HPP inside the FCC. Since no boat shops had the part, we went to an auto parts store. They were cross reference the pump to an obscure car, an Alfa Romero if I recall correctly. Installed that, still no fix.

                        On a whim, while we were at the store, my buddy had grabbed a bottle of the Lucas Fuel Injector Treatment "Tune up in a Bottle". We had a full tank of gas so we had to slosh the boat around to where it sort of mixed in. We ran it on a hose for a bit, still sputtered but was getting better. Dropped the boat in the water to use rollers to help mix, once fully mixed in, we were good to go, full power under load. Always winterize with pure gas AND fuel stabilizer and run the boat for a while to make sure it gets all the way into the injectors.
                        I guess its possible I got bad gas, but being that I burned 26 gallons the day before, I just don't know. The tank is full right now. Whats the best way to go about draining it? Or is there a way to try and run it out of a fuel can just to see if that's the issue?

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                        • kend
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 193

                          • DFW, Texas

                          • current 2001 Air Nautique previous 1988 Sanger DX

                          #27
                          I would dump any type of fuel additive that could dissolve any water out of the fuel (maybe sea foam), it can't hurt even if it does not fix it. Water can clog filters and alcohol based additives will absorb some water and help clear it from the filter. You might check the tank vent on the starboard rear to make sure it did not get clogged causing vapor lock. From what you say I'm guessing fuel pump is most likely issue but does not hurt to rule easy fixes out.
                          Ken
                          2001 DD Air GT40

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                          • brock.higdon
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 190

                            • Auburn AL

                            • 2001 SAN

                            #28
                            Originally posted by kend View Post
                            I would dump any type of fuel additive that could dissolve any water out of the fuel (maybe sea foam), it can't hurt even if it does not fix it. Water can clog filters and alcohol based additives will absorb some water and help clear it from the filter. You might check the tank vent on the starboard rear to make sure it did not get clogged causing vapor lock. From what you say I'm guessing fuel pump is most likely issue but does not hurt to rule easy fixes out.
                            Ill take treatment with me tonight just incase.

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                            • cb
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 26

                              • Battle Ground, WA

                              • 2004 216 Limited

                              #29
                              Sorry, I missed the fact you'd run over 50 gallons through before the problems. Keep us posted..the FCC is a pain to crack open.

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                              • brock.higdon
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 190

                                • Auburn AL

                                • 2001 SAN

                                #30
                                Bought it already. I'll pour it in anyways

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