Hi I am having a bit of trouble with an 06 SAN 210 TE I recently bought. It started with it being in limp mode with an error message Ignition fault see dealer. I replaced the throttle position sensor and sorted that problem. It has LPG and petrol and on LPG it runs perfectly but on petrol it doesn't give full power. Strangely for about 3 days it seemed to clear itself and ran well but now it is back to giving me reduced power. Initially it seemed to be in limp mode but it isn't anymore as the lack of power can happen at any rpm that it decides rather than the 2500 RPM that it did before. Again at the start when it was at idle it ran well but now it seems to want to cut out and then adds a little power to stop that and it never actually cuts out. I don't want to start replacing a lot of different parts (the TAC or ECM) to source the problem if I don't need to as there are no PCM dealers or really anyone with a similar boat nearby. I should add that the problem only happens under load, it will operate normally with the neutral lockout pressed at all RPMs and sometimes revving the boat in neutral can clear the problem but that could be a coincidence.
Thanks for the help.
PERFORMANCE DATA
Parameter Description Value Unit
Engine Speed.......................................... 0 RPM
Calibration Checksum............................... 8B57 HEX
Desired Idle Speed.................................. 744 RPM
Engine Running Time................................ 0,00 Min
Battery Voltage................................... 12,50 VDC
Engine Hours...................................... 911,3 hrs
ECT Temperature.................................... 20,8 °C
Run Time 0-1000 RPM............................... 409,6 hrs
Manifold Air Temperature.......................... -40,0 °C
Run Time 1001-2000 RPM............................ 124,7 hrs
Baro Derived From MAP............................. 100,4 kPa
Run Time 2001-3000 RPM............................ 179,9 hrs
Manifold Absolute Pressure........................ 100,0 kPa
Run Time 3001-4000 RPM............................ 191,9 hrs
MAP Sensor Voltage................................. 4,76 VDC
Run Time 4001-5000 RPM.............................. 5,1 hrs
Injector Bank A Pulse Width........................ 25,4 ms
Run Time Over 5000 RPM.............................. 0,1 hrs
Injector Bank B Pulse Width........................ 25,4 ms
Max Engine RPM logged ......................... 5851 RPM
IAC Position...................................... 254,0 #
Knock Time.......................................... 0,2 hrs
IAC Throttle Follower............................... 0,0 #
ECM Hardware Version.................................. 4 #
Throttle Position.................................. 14,8 %
ECM Software Release................................. 18 #
Throttle Sensor Voltage............................ 0,00 VDC
ECM Software Revision............................... 161 #
Closed Throttle...................................... ON
Engine Displacement................................. 6,0 L
Spark Advance....................................... 0,1 DEG
Diagnostic Input.................................... OFF
Engine Knock........................................ OFF
Fuel Pump Output.................................... OFF
Knock Retard....................................... 0,00 DEG
Gen Warning 1 Input.................................. ON
Octane Rating Adapt................................ 99,6 %
Gen Warning 1 Lamp Output........................... OFF
Cam Retard......................................... 0,00 DEG
Check Gauges Lamp Output............................ OFF
Fuel Flow Rate..................................... 0,00 LPH
Low Oil Pressure Input.............................. OFF
Engine Type........................................... 8 #
Malfunction Indicator Lamp........................... ON
Starts Without Malfunctions........................... 0 #
Rev Limiter Status.................................. OFF
Number of Cylinders................................... 8 #
Shift Interrupt Input............................... OFF
Starts Without Warning.............................. 255 #
Warning Buzzer Output................................ ON
Total Trouble Codes................................... 8
RPM Reduction Control............................... OFF
Disable Injector Bank............................... OFF
Cam Sensor Present................................... ON
58x Crank........................................... OFF
7x Crank............................................ OFF
24x Encoded Crank.................................... ON
TAC Module Present................................... ON
Emergency Stop Enable............................... OFF
Speed Sensor Present................................. ON
EGR Present......................................... OFF
Two ATM MAP Present................................. OFF
MAT Sensor Present.................................. OFF
GPH Calculation Enable............................... ON
Peak & Hold Injectors............................... OFF
Skip Double Fire..................................... ON
Relearn Closed TPS.................................. OFF
Alternate Fuel Spark Curve.......................... OFF
Allow Cyl Balance Test............................... ON
Allow Paired Firing.................................. ON
Bypass Spark System................................. OFF
Multiple EST Outputs................................. ON
Spark Current Clamped............................... OFF
Load Anticipate 1 Enable............................ OFF
Load Anticipate 2 Enable............................ OFF
Adapter Load 1 Enable............................... OFF
Adapter Load 2 Enable............................... OFF
Knock Detection Enable............................... ON
Governor Sync Enable................................. ON
Governor Controls MPH............................... OFF
Governor Present..................................... ON
Twin Shift Sync Enable.............................. OFF
Upshift Control Enable.............................. OFF
CCP Enable.......................................... OFF
Troll Mode Enable................................... OFF
Shift Interrupt Enable.............................. OFF
Shift Interrupt Kill Enable......................... OFF
RPM Output Enable................................... OFF
Fuel Temp Sensor Present............................ OFF
Fuel Pres Sensor Present............................ OFF
Wide Range O2 Sensors................................ ON
Oxygen Sensor 1 Present.............................. ON
Oxygen Sensor 2 Present............................. OFF
Governor Speed Lamp Enable........................... ON
Bosch MAT / MAP Sensor.............................. OFF
Buss Master ECM...................................... ON
Octane Adapt Enable................................. OFF
Variable Speed Gov Enable............................ ON
Emergency Stop Input................................ OFF
Troll Mode Input.................................... OFF
Low Oil Level Input................................. OFF
Gen Warning 2 Input................................. OFF
Low Oil Level Lamp Output........................... OFF
Gen Warning 2 Lamp Output........................... OFF
RPM Based Output.................................... OFF
Monitoring For Knock................................ OFF
Logged NV RAM Fault................................. OFF
Stall or Reset...................................... OFF
Logged RTI Overflow................................. OFF
Troll Mode.......................................... OFF
Low Oil On Last Check............................... OFF
Oil Draining Back................................... OFF
Upshift Conditions.................................. OFF
Shift Interrupt Kill Mode........................... OFF
Closed Loop......................................... OFF
Oxygen Sensor 1 Rich................................. ON
Oxygen Sensor 2 Rich................................ OFF
Governor Over MPH................................... OFF
Governor Over RPM................................... OFF
Governed RPM Speed.................................. OFF
Governor MPH Control................................ OFF
Governor RPM Control................................ OFF
Octane Adapt Active................................. OFF
Oil Pressure Sensor Voltage........................ 5,00 VDC
Vehicle Speed....................................... 0,0 KPH
Gov Desired TPS.................................... 99,6 %
Gov Motor Duty Cycle................................ 0,0 %
Canister Purge Duty Cycle........................... 0,0 %
ETC Pedal Position.................................. 0,0 %
ETC Throttle Sensor Counts........................ 31981 #
ETC Desired Pedal Position.......................... 0,0 %
ETC Desired Throttle Counts....................... 32000 #
ETC Pedal Sensor Counts............................ 2560 #
Oxygen Sensor 1 Voltage............................ 1157 mV
Oxygen Sensor 2 Voltage............................. 464 mV
Oxygen Sensor 1 Transitions......................... 0,0 #
Oxygen Sensor 2 Transitions......................... 0,0 #
Block Learn Cell.................................... 0,0 #
O2 Sensor 1 Block Learn........................... 128,0 #
O2 Sensor 2 Block Learn............................. 0,0 #
Desired EGR Position................................ 0,0 #
Actual EGR Position................................. 0,0 #
Absolute EGR Error.................................. 0,0 %
EGR Duty Cycle...................................... 0,0 %
Fuel Pressure Volts................................ 3,21 VDC
Fuel Temp Sensor Volts............................. 0,00 VDC
3. TROUBLE CODE STATUS
Current ECM Codes
(81) Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) Malfunction
(81) Inj A High
(81) Inj A Low/Open
(81) Inj B High
(81) Inj B Low/Open
(81) 5 Volt Reference Malfunction
(81) TAC Fault - Serial Communication Fault
(81) TAC Fault - Lmtd Authority
Thanks for the help.
PERFORMANCE DATA
Parameter Description Value Unit
Engine Speed.......................................... 0 RPM
Calibration Checksum............................... 8B57 HEX
Desired Idle Speed.................................. 744 RPM
Engine Running Time................................ 0,00 Min
Battery Voltage................................... 12,50 VDC
Engine Hours...................................... 911,3 hrs
ECT Temperature.................................... 20,8 °C
Run Time 0-1000 RPM............................... 409,6 hrs
Manifold Air Temperature.......................... -40,0 °C
Run Time 1001-2000 RPM............................ 124,7 hrs
Baro Derived From MAP............................. 100,4 kPa
Run Time 2001-3000 RPM............................ 179,9 hrs
Manifold Absolute Pressure........................ 100,0 kPa
Run Time 3001-4000 RPM............................ 191,9 hrs
MAP Sensor Voltage................................. 4,76 VDC
Run Time 4001-5000 RPM.............................. 5,1 hrs
Injector Bank A Pulse Width........................ 25,4 ms
Run Time Over 5000 RPM.............................. 0,1 hrs
Injector Bank B Pulse Width........................ 25,4 ms
Max Engine RPM logged ......................... 5851 RPM
IAC Position...................................... 254,0 #
Knock Time.......................................... 0,2 hrs
IAC Throttle Follower............................... 0,0 #
ECM Hardware Version.................................. 4 #
Throttle Position.................................. 14,8 %
ECM Software Release................................. 18 #
Throttle Sensor Voltage............................ 0,00 VDC
ECM Software Revision............................... 161 #
Closed Throttle...................................... ON
Engine Displacement................................. 6,0 L
Spark Advance....................................... 0,1 DEG
Diagnostic Input.................................... OFF
Engine Knock........................................ OFF
Fuel Pump Output.................................... OFF
Knock Retard....................................... 0,00 DEG
Gen Warning 1 Input.................................. ON
Octane Rating Adapt................................ 99,6 %
Gen Warning 1 Lamp Output........................... OFF
Cam Retard......................................... 0,00 DEG
Check Gauges Lamp Output............................ OFF
Fuel Flow Rate..................................... 0,00 LPH
Low Oil Pressure Input.............................. OFF
Engine Type........................................... 8 #
Malfunction Indicator Lamp........................... ON
Starts Without Malfunctions........................... 0 #
Rev Limiter Status.................................. OFF
Number of Cylinders................................... 8 #
Shift Interrupt Input............................... OFF
Starts Without Warning.............................. 255 #
Warning Buzzer Output................................ ON
Total Trouble Codes................................... 8
RPM Reduction Control............................... OFF
Disable Injector Bank............................... OFF
Cam Sensor Present................................... ON
58x Crank........................................... OFF
7x Crank............................................ OFF
24x Encoded Crank.................................... ON
TAC Module Present................................... ON
Emergency Stop Enable............................... OFF
Speed Sensor Present................................. ON
EGR Present......................................... OFF
Two ATM MAP Present................................. OFF
MAT Sensor Present.................................. OFF
GPH Calculation Enable............................... ON
Peak & Hold Injectors............................... OFF
Skip Double Fire..................................... ON
Relearn Closed TPS.................................. OFF
Alternate Fuel Spark Curve.......................... OFF
Allow Cyl Balance Test............................... ON
Allow Paired Firing.................................. ON
Bypass Spark System................................. OFF
Multiple EST Outputs................................. ON
Spark Current Clamped............................... OFF
Load Anticipate 1 Enable............................ OFF
Load Anticipate 2 Enable............................ OFF
Adapter Load 1 Enable............................... OFF
Adapter Load 2 Enable............................... OFF
Knock Detection Enable............................... ON
Governor Sync Enable................................. ON
Governor Controls MPH............................... OFF
Governor Present..................................... ON
Twin Shift Sync Enable.............................. OFF
Upshift Control Enable.............................. OFF
CCP Enable.......................................... OFF
Troll Mode Enable................................... OFF
Shift Interrupt Enable.............................. OFF
Shift Interrupt Kill Enable......................... OFF
RPM Output Enable................................... OFF
Fuel Temp Sensor Present............................ OFF
Fuel Pres Sensor Present............................ OFF
Wide Range O2 Sensors................................ ON
Oxygen Sensor 1 Present.............................. ON
Oxygen Sensor 2 Present............................. OFF
Governor Speed Lamp Enable........................... ON
Bosch MAT / MAP Sensor.............................. OFF
Buss Master ECM...................................... ON
Octane Adapt Enable................................. OFF
Variable Speed Gov Enable............................ ON
Emergency Stop Input................................ OFF
Troll Mode Input.................................... OFF
Low Oil Level Input................................. OFF
Gen Warning 2 Input................................. OFF
Low Oil Level Lamp Output........................... OFF
Gen Warning 2 Lamp Output........................... OFF
RPM Based Output.................................... OFF
Monitoring For Knock................................ OFF
Logged NV RAM Fault................................. OFF
Stall or Reset...................................... OFF
Logged RTI Overflow................................. OFF
Troll Mode.......................................... OFF
Low Oil On Last Check............................... OFF
Oil Draining Back................................... OFF
Upshift Conditions.................................. OFF
Shift Interrupt Kill Mode........................... OFF
Closed Loop......................................... OFF
Oxygen Sensor 1 Rich................................. ON
Oxygen Sensor 2 Rich................................ OFF
Governor Over MPH................................... OFF
Governor Over RPM................................... OFF
Governed RPM Speed.................................. OFF
Governor MPH Control................................ OFF
Governor RPM Control................................ OFF
Octane Adapt Active................................. OFF
Oil Pressure Sensor Voltage........................ 5,00 VDC
Vehicle Speed....................................... 0,0 KPH
Gov Desired TPS.................................... 99,6 %
Gov Motor Duty Cycle................................ 0,0 %
Canister Purge Duty Cycle........................... 0,0 %
ETC Pedal Position.................................. 0,0 %
ETC Throttle Sensor Counts........................ 31981 #
ETC Desired Pedal Position.......................... 0,0 %
ETC Desired Throttle Counts....................... 32000 #
ETC Pedal Sensor Counts............................ 2560 #
Oxygen Sensor 1 Voltage............................ 1157 mV
Oxygen Sensor 2 Voltage............................. 464 mV
Oxygen Sensor 1 Transitions......................... 0,0 #
Oxygen Sensor 2 Transitions......................... 0,0 #
Block Learn Cell.................................... 0,0 #
O2 Sensor 1 Block Learn........................... 128,0 #
O2 Sensor 2 Block Learn............................. 0,0 #
Desired EGR Position................................ 0,0 #
Actual EGR Position................................. 0,0 #
Absolute EGR Error.................................. 0,0 %
EGR Duty Cycle...................................... 0,0 %
Fuel Pressure Volts................................ 3,21 VDC
Fuel Temp Sensor Volts............................. 0,00 VDC
3. TROUBLE CODE STATUS
Current ECM Codes
(81) Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) Malfunction
(81) Inj A High
(81) Inj A Low/Open
(81) Inj B High
(81) Inj B Low/Open
(81) 5 Volt Reference Malfunction
(81) TAC Fault - Serial Communication Fault
(81) TAC Fault - Lmtd Authority
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