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  • wiggy G23
    • Aug 2014
    • 17

    • Australia

    • 2013 G23 450 2015 G23 450

    #1

    2015 G23 Ballast Issues

    Has anyone else had problems with ballast readings incorrect ?
    We have had this problem since new been back to dealer a few times & is back there now trying to solve problem,
    Problem we have is when link is booted up we show 1/3 ballast in starboard even on tralier,
    This is very frustrating if first up rider doesn't want full ballast as we have to over fill ballast then drain back to have correct reading on link,
    Dealer has changed (under factorys instructions) link & senders several times,checked & altered lines,
    Our dealer had a similar problem with a G21 in bow ballast but found the line was squashed under fuel tank, but not been able to find on rectify our problem,
    As we live in Oz an have summer holidays starting next week so keen to get boat back from dealer fixed, any information would be appreciated



  • tcaviness
    • Nov 2015
    • 48

    • Lewiston, ID

    • 2015 G23

    #2
    Our '15 G23 has been doing the same thing. I told the dealer about it when we dropped it off for the season. Guess we will find out if it is fixed in the spring. Agree that it is frustrating.

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    • euro2012
      • Jul 2014
      • 71

      • BC

      • 2015 G25 550

      #3
      Ours did the same. Not sure if it is because of the timers when draining, but we would drain on the way back to the ramp, and it would read zero. If we left the boat on, and then hit drain again once on the trailer a bunch more water would come out. Likewise, if staying on the water, hit drain until it says zero, then cycle power on and off, and it would read several pounds of ballast again. You would then have to figure out which one it was. In our case it was the starboard rear. I believe this to be based on routing of tubing being longer or more bendy on the starboard sack and being on the same timer. Not sure if its fixable, rather than getting used to how it functions unfortunately.

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      • JoeA
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jun 2014
        • 808

        • Chickamauga Lake TN

        • 2015 G23 550

        #4
        My starboard rear takes longer to fill and empty. I'll replace all of the impellers in 2017 so see if that resolves the issue.
        2015 G23 550
        2013 Malibu 22MXZ

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        • euro2012
          • Jul 2014
          • 71

          • BC

          • 2015 G25 550

          #5
          I did change all of mine as well in the hopes it would change. Sadly, it did not.

          Merry Christmas all!

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          • wiggy G23
            • Aug 2014
            • 17

            • Australia

            • 2013 G23 450 2015 G23 450

            #6
            Hey Guys has anyone had any luck over winter with fixing there ballast issues Ours is still ongoing
            Cheers Wiggy

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            • Flyindutchman
              • Sep 2016
              • 213

              • North Bay, Ontario

              • 2015 Super Air Nautique 210

              #7
              I am experiencing this same issue. Every start up we are showing a 1/3 full in starboard and belly. Have only had the boat for a few days at this point and was hoping after a few cycles it might straighten out. I thought the ballast level display was strictly based on pump run time with no other sensors involved...meaning it would have to be a programming issue with the LINC unit???

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              • charlesml3
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2454

                • Lake Gaston, NC

                • 2022 G23

                #8
                OK, I've been playing around with this on my 230 and I think I may know what's going on. I was showing one tank 1/3 full even though I knew it was empty. This went on for several days. I believe this happens because of the way they fill/empty and the LINC display. As near as I can tell, the display works on timers and capacity only. There are no float levels or anything in the tanks.

                The LINC display can get out of sync with the actual levels in the tanks. I noticed that the level was reading 1/3 full and it was showing 100 pounds or so of weight. The only way I've found to get everything back in sync is to just run the pumps until the weight reads zero. Even after the pumps start making "the sound." Now I'm sure someone is going to tell me that this will burn up the impeller. Maybe it will. If someone comes up with a better solution, please post it here.

                -Charles

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                • wiggy G23
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 17

                  • Australia

                  • 2013 G23 450 2015 G23 450

                  #9
                  Flyin
                  we had same troubles with both belly & Starboard when first picked boat up but dealer changed link at 25 hours service & belly was fixed,
                  No luck with starboard

                  Charles
                  we use to do same drain back but we found impeller life span very short so we now go pro rider an when pump stops just restart pump till it overflows
                  & manually stop pump

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                  • Flyindutchman
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 213

                    • North Bay, Ontario

                    • 2015 Super Air Nautique 210

                    #10
                    Gotcha wiggy. Well, since I've only had the boat for a few days (delivered Wednesday), I'm going to bring the issue up with my dealership tomorrow and see what they propose.

                    I tried it out a few times again today and I'm more confused than ever.

                    I was sure that the issue was simply a 'LINC display out of sync' situation....but after driving around for a 1/2 hour or so on freshly emptied tanks it seems that my belly/starboard tank is in fact picking up some water. When I go back to Ballast settings it will show either 1/4 or 1/3 and when I hit drain, it does actually pump out water for a time.

                    That is different than the ballast levels it will show when I power down and back up again. That seems to be a different 'display out of sync' issue.

                    If they figure something out I will share it but my dealership is 2.5 hours away so it's not likely to get resolved until end of season...sigh.

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                    • Tallredrider
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1026

                      • St. George, Utah

                      • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Flyindutchman View Post
                      Gotcha wiggy. Well, since I've only had the boat for a few days (delivered Wednesday), I'm going to bring the issue up with my dealership tomorrow and see what they propose.

                      I tried it out a few times again today and I'm more confused than ever.

                      I was sure that the issue was simply a 'LINC display out of sync' situation....but after driving around for a 1/2 hour or so on freshly emptied tanks it seems that my belly/starboard tank is in fact picking up some water. When I go back to Ballast settings it will show either 1/4 or 1/3 and when I hit drain, it does actually pump out water for a time.

                      That is different than the ballast levels it will show when I power down and back up again. That seems to be a different 'display out of sync' issue.

                      If they figure something out I will share it but my dealership is 2.5 hours away so it's not likely to get resolved until end of season...sigh.
                      These boats are known to siphon in water without the pumps on. They started sometime in 2015 to add automated shut off valves to combat the issue. The other cure is to have fresh impellers in the pumps and the siphon does not happen. Some guys would let the boat sit overnight and come back in the morning to full or near full ballast. I don't think that is wiggy's problem, but it sounds like flyinducthman's problem.

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                      • wiggy G23
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 17

                        • Australia

                        • 2013 G23 450 2015 G23 450

                        #12
                        Tallred you are spot on the money about Flyin's problem, I did have that prob on both G's & we float our boat overnight all the time,but on 2015 model i had dealer fit auto shut of valves that eliminated some of problems

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                        • Flyindutchman
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 213

                          • North Bay, Ontario

                          • 2015 Super Air Nautique 210

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tallredrider View Post

                          These boats are known to siphon in water without the pumps on. They started sometime in 2015 to add automated shut off valves to combat the issue. The other cure is to have fresh impellers in the pumps and the siphon does not happen. Some guys would let the boat sit overnight and come back in the morning to full or near full ballast. I don't think that is wiggy's problem, but it sounds like flyinducthman's problem.
                          Thank you for that information. I'll inquire about fresh impellers to see if they already did that for me or not. I hope it can be as simple as that.

                          Wiggy - I still have the LINC display out of sync with tanks issue also so hopefully I haven't steered your thread off course with that related issue...

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                          • Flyindutchman
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 213

                            • North Bay, Ontario

                            • 2015 Super Air Nautique 210

                            #14
                            Update - the dealership is having a tech call me today or tomorrow to discuss the issue of LINC displays & actual ballast levels. I will explain both the issue of the LINC displaying water when there is none and the LINC not displaying water when there is lots.

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                            • MattGettel
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 9

                              • Floyds Knobs IN


                              #15
                              Any update Flyindutchman?

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