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  • soaresfive
    • Jul 2005
    • 66

    • Camarillo California


    Impeller Hype?

    I hear quite often that the impeller should be changed every 100 hours or every season. Then I heard every two seasons. Looking at what the impeller is made of - hard rubber like material - it doesn't seem as if it would wear down enough to need replacement unless otherwise chewed up by something that was sucked in... I understand the importance of the part in keeping your engine cool but how much wear and tear is there? Really now...

    PS

    The part shown in the photo is not correct for a 03 206...
  • DRAGON88
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2003
    • 529

    • Eugene, Oregon

    • 1999 Sport Naqutique 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

    #2
    RE: Impeller Hype?

    First page of the owners manual: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

    It's not so much that the impeller is destroyed after a season, it's just that if it does go bad it can do some pretty gnarly things. Rubber bits blocking coolant ports, overheating on the lake, etc. At the very least you should be removing the impeller every year to check for wear.

    To most people a $20 part every year is cheaper than destroying a motor, (overheating) or being stranded on the lake. It's just cheap insurance.
    How about \"Chales\"?

    RIP Nikolai (\'05 SANTE) 5/23/05 - 4/30/06

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    • Mikeski
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2908

      • San Francisco, CA

      • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

      #3
      RE: Impeller Hype?

      my buddy thought it was BS, finally after 5 seasons his Brendella impeller threw the blades off, he kept driving to get to the houseboat since it was already getting dark. It's not too bad, just needs new heads, new exhaust manifolds, and new exhaust hose. Probably set him back about $2k on a boat worth about $8k. I change mine every other year, it's just cheaper. Even a brand new impeller will cook if you run it dry for any length of time.

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      • 99ProAir
        • Jan 2004
        • 109

        • Western Suburbs, Chicago IL. (Boat is at Northwestern Indiana Lake House)


        #4
        RE: Impeller Hype?

        I replace mine every year. Like Dragon 88 said, it's cheap insurance.

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        • Erik
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Sep 2003
          • 653

          • New England


          #5
          RE: Impeller Hype?

          I just wrote something on this issue
          http://www.wakeboardreport.com/

          2nd blog down. Right after the mirror story. Have a look at the impeller I pulled out of my SAN on Saturday...

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          • soaresfive
            • Jul 2005
            • 66

            • Camarillo California


            #6
            RE: Impeller Hype?

            Originally posted by Erik
            I just wrote something on this issue
            http://www.wakeboardreport.com/

            2nd blog down. Right after the mirror story. Have a look at the impeller I pulled out of my SAN on Saturday...
            Ok, the consensus is in change the impeller every year to every other year regardless, don't risk it, it's not worth taking a chance for a $20 part. I get it!

            Erik,

            Nice little article and the picture was very compelling.

            Thanks to everyone for the great feedback.

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            • bkhallpass
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 1407

              • Discovery Bay, CA

              • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

              #7
              RE: Impeller Hype?

              Soares,

              It is not that the impeller wears down. It is that it gets hot. Hot rubber get brittle and rots.
              I bad impeller will typically have cracks, in which case the vanes of the impeller do not remain rigid and therefore do not get a nice fit to properly pump the water, or disintegrate all together, in which case you will have virtually no water pumping through the engine and a lot of chunks that you have to go tracking down throughout the hoses and the motor. Even if you don't crack a head or blow a head gasket, it's not worth your time to have to track down the debris. BKH
              2001 Super Air

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              • soaresfive
                • Jul 2005
                • 66

                • Camarillo California


                #8
                RE: Impeller Hype?

                Originally posted by bkhallpass
                Soares,

                It is not that the impeller wears down. It is that it gets hot. Hot rubber get brittle and rots.
                I bad impeller will typically have cracks, in which case the vanes of the impeller do not remain rigid and therefore do not get a nice fit to properly pump the water, or disintegrate all together, in which case you will have virtually no water pumping through the engine and a lot of chunks that you have to go tracking down throughout the hoses and the motor. Even if you donBKH,
                I now understand. I picked up our 206 last night and the mechanic did replce the impeller beacuse one fins was nearly torn off. In addition he also showed me one where everything was in tact however through wear and tear the fins were worn in the direction the part spins. He had indicated if you have ever run the motor without water it could destory the impeller in as little as 30 seconds. (And yes I have been that stupid) For hundred bucks -parts and labor it is indeed cheap insurance.

                Thanks,

                for the insight!

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                • winebrad
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 90

                  • Napa, CA

                  • 2002 Air Nautique 216 Excaliber 330

                  #9
                  RE: Impeller Hype?

                  I had mine changed this spring. I had the boat in the shop for some other work and asked if they could take a look at the impeller just to make sure all was well. Well we caught it just in time as one of the blades was nearly sheared off but still connected. It would have come apart the next time out!! My boat has three seasons and only 86 Hrs which is not a lot but just to be on the save side I will replace every year!

                  Brad
                  02 Air

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                  • EchoLodge
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 616

                    • Huntington Beach, CA

                    • 99 Super Sport

                    #10
                    No Hype

                    On my 90 Sport I would get two years out of an impeller (about 300 hrs). The boat always ran at 160 and when it would start running at 170 I knew it was time to change. The old impellers never appeared in bad shape rather the fins had developed a memory and would be bent. I always carry an extra impeller on board and you can swap it out on the water in about 5 minutes with a crescent wrench and screw driver. I have over 1200 hrs on this boat. We use my buddies boat now (01 Sport). I change it every year to be on the safe side. At under $30 it is cheap insurance.
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                    • DavidF
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 611

                      • Austin, TX


                      #11
                      Originally posted by soaresfive
                      I now understand. I picked up our 206 last night and the mechanic did replce the impeller beacuse one fins was nearly torn off. In addition he also showed me one where everything was in tact however through wear and tear the fins were worn in the direction the part spins. He had indicated if you have ever run the motor without water it could destory the impeller in as little as 30 seconds. (And yes I have been that stupid) For hundred bucks -parts and labor it is indeed cheap insurance.

                      Thanks,

                      for the insight!
                      30 seconds is VERY long time to run the impellar without water. Personally, I always dry start my engine on the trailer just to make sure it is going to run before heading to the lake. At the longest, I might let it run for 5 seconds, but I doubt that long. NEVER EVER have I had an impellar failure that I can relate to this behavior. I change the impellar every two to three years. No abnormal wear on impellar. Some will ademantly disagree with this practice and that is fine, but it works for me.

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                      • EchoLodge
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 616

                        • Huntington Beach, CA

                        • 99 Super Sport

                        #12
                        We have all been told dry starts are bad. But there is usually water left in the strainer, elbow, and pump. Gives your impeller a bit of lubricant!
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                        • richard
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 406

                          • HK


                          #13
                          Impeller Hype?

                          I agree with DavidF

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                          • joelhern2
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 158

                            • Cincinnati,OH


                            #14
                            I just jumped on the bandwagon and ordered an impeller for my '91. Is there instructions out there anywhere showing the "how to's and what not to do's" of changing the impeller?
                            \'91 Barefoot Nautique

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                            • wakejunky
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 679

                              • Ca

                              • 2003 SAN

                              #15
                              Anybody have any good sources for an impeller? I know Skidim has them but, they're not necessarily the most economical.

                              Chris

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