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  • tmb
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Mar 2004
    • 616

    • Midwest

    • '22 GS 22 ‘12 200

    750 or 400 sacs plumed into 210?

    any of you guys have 750's plumbed into your rear hard tanks? I currently have 400's and it produces a great surf wave. Both buxton and N3 recommend 750's but I'm thinking that would cause a lot of bow rise even with a bow sac. Any experience out there?
    '18 SAN 210 Reef Blue/Admiral Blue Metal Flake
    '12 SAN 210 TE Black/Masters Blue
    '09 SAN 210 TE Black/Fury Red
    '08 Air 216 TE
    '02 Air 216
    '98 Sport Nautique
    '89 MC Prostar 190
  • nyryan2001
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1993

    • Lake Anna


    #2
    750s and lead up front to reduce bow rise
    2019 G23 450
    2014 G23 550
    2013 G23 450
    2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
    2007 Yamaha AR210

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    • jwell12
      • Jun 2017
      • 7

      • Michigan/Ohio

      • SN 2001

      #3
      One of my friends has a '15 SAN 210 with 750s in the rear and it ruined the surf wave at least when I tried it, it was so steep and hardly any length it wanted to throw you right into the back of the boat. We had him empty them to about 3/4 full and had people move to the bow and it helped some. Not sure what his NSS was set at though.

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      • jondavis08
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • May 2016
        • 369

        • Battle Creek, MI

        • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

        #4
        I have 850s on the rear and added a bow sac(needed if you add weight) I like my surf wake better than the Mastercrafts and MBs I ride with my friends


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        • cedarcreek216
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1009

          • Dallas, TX

          • 2018 210 2013 210 2009 216V

          #5
          I have 750's and a tube sac in the ski locker, far from ruins anything.


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          • tmb
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Mar 2004
            • 616

            • Midwest

            • '22 GS 22 ‘12 200

            #6
            Any issues with bow rise?
            '18 SAN 210 Reef Blue/Admiral Blue Metal Flake
            '12 SAN 210 TE Black/Masters Blue
            '09 SAN 210 TE Black/Fury Red
            '08 Air 216 TE
            '02 Air 216
            '98 Sport Nautique
            '89 MC Prostar 190

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            • jondavis08
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • May 2016
              • 369

              • Battle Creek, MI

              • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

              #7
              It helps to have bow weight. Piggy back kit for a under bow sac is very cheap and as easy as it gets to install. Highly suggest it.


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              • SupraFly
                • May 2009
                • 88



                #8
                Originally posted by jondavis08
                It helps to have bow weight. Piggy back kit for a under bow sac is very cheap and as easy as it gets to install. Highly suggest it.


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                I would love more info or pics on this...

                What size sac? How'd you plumb it?

                I've thought about lead, but a sac would be nice.


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                • cedarcreek216
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1009

                  • Dallas, TX

                  • 2018 210 2013 210 2009 216V

                  #9
                  Not sure what year your 210 is, but if it has a ski locker the Fly High 370 pound tube sac fit perfectly in there.


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                  • tmb
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 616

                    • Midwest

                    • '22 GS 22 ‘12 200

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jondavis08 View Post
                    It helps to have bow weight. Piggy back kit for a under bow sac is very cheap and as easy as it gets to install. Highly suggest it.


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                    I have a bow sac under my front seats that is plumbed into belly ballast. I still seem to get a little bow rise when my 400's are filled on top of my factory tanks. Wasn't sure how bad it would be with 750's.
                    '18 SAN 210 Reef Blue/Admiral Blue Metal Flake
                    '12 SAN 210 TE Black/Masters Blue
                    '09 SAN 210 TE Black/Fury Red
                    '08 Air 216 TE
                    '02 Air 216
                    '98 Sport Nautique
                    '89 MC Prostar 190

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                    • SupraFly
                      • May 2009
                      • 88



                      #11
                      Originally posted by tmb

                      I have a bow sac under my front seats that is plumbed into belly ballast. I still seem to get a little bow rise when my 400's are filled on top of my factory tanks. Wasn't sure how bad it would be with 750's.
                      How did you plumb the sac into the hard tank?


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                      • Kelly Gummere
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 38

                        • Memphis, TN

                        • 2014 SAN 210

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SupraFly View Post

                        How did you plumb the sac into the hard tank?


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                        SupraFly I have 2 Ronix 800s in each rear locker and a 400 lb triangle bow sac in my 14' 210. It works great. I only fill the bow sack up about 1/2 to 2/3ds depending on how many people we have. If you go to wakemakers.com and call them they are great. For like 100 bucks they will send you all the stuff you need. Just tell them the boat you have and they can set you up

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                        • F725
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 381

                          • Minnesota

                          • 2018 G21

                          #13
                          I have 750's in my 2017 210. I only use extra bow weight when I can't get a person to sit up front. It only takes about 150 lbs up front to make a difference. Bow rise is not an issue and I'm only 5'4" ( I just use the bolster seat) on the captains chair. BTW... I drove a Malibu 22 MXZ the other day... I had to stand up and drive because of the bow rise.

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                          • SupraFly
                            • May 2009
                            • 88



                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kelly Gummere

                            SupraFly I have 2 Ronix 800s in each rear locker and a 400 lb triangle bow sac in my 14' 210. It works great. I only fill the bow sack up about 1/2 to 2/3ds depending on how many people we have. If you go to wakemakers.com and call them they are great. For like 100 bucks they will send you all the stuff you need. Just tell them the boat you have and they can set you up
                            Thanks for the info. It looks like it's an easy install. Not a lot of irreversible drilling...

                            I'd love to know what bow sac you have.

                            Does it take up a lot of the bow storage area?


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                            • jondavis08
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • May 2016
                              • 369

                              • Battle Creek, MI

                              • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

                              #15
                              This is what I used https://www.wakemakers.com/straight-...w-bag-500.html

                              Easy install with a wakemakers kit. The over fill from the belly tank goes into the bag and the a overfill line from the bag goes where the belly tank overfill was... as mentioned you do not need the 550 filled when surfing. I however fill it full when wakeboarding


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