2017 Nautique 210 ballast question

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  • Soul_surfer
    • Aug 2017
    • 124

    • Canada, QC

    • 2020 GS22 / Previous : 2017 Nautique 210

    #1

    2017 Nautique 210 ballast question

    Hi everybody,
    currently dealing with my local nautique dealer a 2017 Nautique 210 seller demo.
    28hours fully equipped.
    Have the pro wake/surf ballast with storage trays option.
    210 comes with 1 150pounds stock ballast + 600lbs (pro wake)
    My question is how the ballast are dispatched?
    My guess is 350 undertank each rear sides and a 450 in the front. + 300 sac in each rear sides. correct me if I'm wrong.
    And anybody ever change the 300pounds rear sacs for heavier? What fatsac size?

    Im currently surfing with a 2016 Tige Z1. 2400lbs stock ballast (950's bag each rear sides, 250's each front sides)
    honestly z1 wave is better.. no offense! But maybe if I change the pro wake bags for larger maybe 750's (I don't know what standard bag size goes there).
    Maybe it will solve the problem and even have a better surf wave than the stock z1.

    would highly prefer a 210 over z1 if I can solve the surfwave "issue"
    thanks for your thoughts.
  • jondavis08
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2016
    • 369

    • Battle Creek, MI

    • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

    #2
    Swap the pro ballast bags for 750-850s. Add weight to the bow(only need 200 for surfing). Wake is great after that!


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    • Soul_surfer
      • Aug 2017
      • 124

      • Canada, QC

      • 2020 GS22 / Previous : 2017 Nautique 210

      #3
      Cool! Thank a lot friend.
      do you have preferences with fatsacs?
      Fly high or sumo?
      Do nautique have some quick connect fitting? That will direct fit on straightline sumo sac or fly high fatsac
      Thanks

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      • swatguy
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • May 2008
        • 1631

        • Midwest/ Northern IL

        • 2008 SANTE 210

        #4
        Def want more weight in the 210. Keep in mind the Z1 also has a higher dry weight (500lbs more roughly ) and little different hull. The wave on the Z1 gives you a longer pocket, but adding the extra to the 210 really wakes it up. Give it a go with the bigger bags. It will definitely improve. The 210 is a great surf option. The Z1 is probably one of the only 22ft boats that can beat it out tho ,so it's a tough call

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        • Wake.BC
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jan 2016
          • 423

          • BC, Canada


          #5
          The Z1 is a very very good 22ft surf boat. You need more weight in the rears, check out mikes liquid audio he’ll hook you up


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          • Miljack
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 1616

            • Charlotte, NC

            • '08 230 TE ZR6

            #6
            the stock fittings are not quick release, just standard clamps and barbed fittings from FlyHi. After having both standard and quick disconnects (Flo Rites), I would go with barbed and clamps due to leaking/fittings popping off.
            Wakemakers.com has all the fittings and info to review in on spot.
            750 FlyHi or Sumos, I have some Sumo 900's in my 230, and they hold more like a 1,000 when full, Sumo has bags that are rated @ 850#, which have the same dimensions as the FlyHi 750's. I don't know if that's accurate for the Sumo's, but for a while, the Sumos held more weight than they were rated for.
            To me, the material of the Sumo bags seem more "flexible" than the FlyHi bags I've had, the FlyHi seem "tougher" or stronger material. Sumo bags use 1"NPT fittings, so water fill fill faster in them if your plumbing is setup to handle that.
            2008 230 TE-ZR6
            1999 Pro Air Python-sold and moved away :-(

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            • Soul_surfer
              • Aug 2017
              • 124

              • Canada, QC

              • 2020 GS22 / Previous : 2017 Nautique 210

              #7
              Thanks guys really appreciate!
              like you said it's a though call haha..
              but definitely prefer 210 overall boat
              more comfortable, better interior, handle better, product overall quality,
              looking at everything the boat seems more realable for long use.
              Nss system seems really legit, plates are all covered so the major tige issue wich is water in taps actuators would not be the case with Nautique.
              just that prove how nautique take care of details. I think!

              But z1 have a better stock wave, firm wave that's what scares me the most because I'm used with tige firm and long wave since years haha..
              z1 is less priced and have little more option like LED's on every speakers, tower blabla. But that ain't bothering me much.
              But Tige dealer is really far and only have one in the region, seems a bit little compare to all Nautique/bu's/Moomba dealer. So maybe service calls can be long and don't keep in stock so many parts if something's broke.
              And tige seems to have lot of bugs on 2017 lake water in actuators, computer lagging and things like that's.
              I know all boats had their own issues but I don't really know Nautique either. Never been on this forum before and any friend of mine or neighbor at the lake had one. I'm still making some research about the boat.
              thanks a lot guys really appreciate.
              Last edited by Soul_surfer; 08-08-2017, 08:49 AM.

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              • Wake.BC
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Jan 2016
                • 423

                • BC, Canada


                #8
                Soul surfer. Where are you located?


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                • Soul_surfer
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 124

                  • Canada, QC

                  • 2020 GS22 / Previous : 2017 Nautique 210

                  #9
                  Québec. Eastern Canada

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