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  • Clint NC
    • Sep 2017
    • 5

    • NC

    • 2001 super air

    GT40 with bad ECM.

    Can anyone point me to where I can get the engine program needed for programing a new ecm for a 2001 GT40? I'm told mine is bad and there are none available, which is ridiculous. Dealer suggested I need a new Engine! or that they take off the FI and replace everything with a 4 barrel carb, new intake, fuel pump, distributor,etc..... I don't think either of those suggestions are reasonable. Quick you tube search showed a mustang computer from 93 is compatible but need to gram an ECM with correct profile. Engine only has 400ish hours on it. In my opinion Correct craft/PCM have lost customers over this issue. Premier ski boat known for quality, great Christian company, and something as simple as a ECM $30 chip means we need a new engine? at 10k for the engine not installed. perhaps PCM should try you tube for knowledge on repair and gather up some inventory to fix there engines. Customers should not have to figure this out. The manufacturer/boat company should. ....I'm done... Thanks.... Clint
  • ScooterMcgavin
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1478

    • Florida

    • 2014 SAN 210 TE

    #2
    Good info here Clint
    https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/f...ecu#post510361
    2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
    2006 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
    1989 Sport Nautique

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    • fabio
      • Jul 2014
      • 34

      • California

      • 1997 Ski Nautique

      #3
      You're right this is ridiculous for a Correct Craft/PCM not to have a fix for this!!! I also have a 1997 GT40, still running. But, I dread the day the ECM fails!!!! I have called PCM with no luck, I can't even get through the receptionist to talk to a tech. Not that I need help at this time. But, I just want to know what are my option for the future. With this, I will never purchase a Nautique or any PCM engine ever again!!!! I have been a loyal customer for year to Correct.... but, never again!!!
      If I find out any information on this matter I will surely keep you posted or if you, keep us posted.

      Thanks.



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      • Clint NC
        • Sep 2017
        • 5

        • NC

        • 2001 super air

        #4
        thanks for the link scooter, I did find that, after searching some.... funny that no where in 8 pages of posts did anyone have to "replace an engine" or covert it to a carb. My ECM is at PCM for testing I am told. They have to pull out an old GT40 engine to test it. Fingers crossed they can do something, but if not, I will figure out the donor stuff.

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        • gary s
          • Mar 2015
          • 333

          • Algonquin IL

          • 1969 Mustang SS, 1995 Nautique SS, 1978 Shamrock 20, 1988 Shamrock 170

          #5
          I agree with you guy's being upset but in all fairness it's not Correct Craft's or PCM's fault. It's Fords. They got out of the marine business,PCM just used them as a vendor to supply engines and systems to their specifications. What should upset you more are the parts that are no longer available that PCM produced to make the engines marine engines,fuel pumps,cooling system parts etc.

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          • Clint NC
            • Sep 2017
            • 5

            • NC

            • 2001 super air

            #6
            I would say it may not be there fault but it should be there problem. Dealer just put two fuel pumps on my boat. They seem available. It's not that the parts aren't available, these threads show that it can be corrected by buying ford car parts. My point is that PCM and CC understand there is a problem. They need to push ford for some hardware or buy some car computers and program chips to provide public vs shrugging shoulders or a dealer telling me I need a new engine. You know the 2001 has a key pad that goes bad also. Costs $400 and boat can't run without it. So is that next, " sorry sir, we quit making the starting switch, you need a new boat"? I can buy a a part to fix a a 1977 Honda motorcycle or a 66 corvette and even a 1931 ford model T. It's just reflects poorly on the correct craft brand, in my opinion.

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            • gary s
              • Mar 2015
              • 333

              • Algonquin IL

              • 1969 Mustang SS, 1995 Nautique SS, 1978 Shamrock 20, 1988 Shamrock 170

              #7
              I understand what your saying and agree but get used to it,it's the modern way,just try and go to Dell and buy a 10 year old Intel processor. I can also tell you out of the 3 vehicles you stated above only Honda supported it's parts 10+ after it's manufacturing cycle was over,and now since '91 when Mr Honda passed that has changed too. My dad had a 2001 Lincoln Town Car. 11 years old 80k the dash goes completely out,no speed,odometer,fuel,or temp. Took it to his dealer- yep the dash is out- sorry no way to fix,pretty hard to drive with none of the info. Luckily the aftermarket came up to the plate and it was able to be fixed. I think Ford built more TC's in a week than Correct Craft built boats in a year just saying.There is no money or profit to store parts 10,15+ years and hope that someday they sell. As to fuel pumps,1995 fuel pumps have not been available for a approximately 2 years. PCM has come up with a conversion kit,so who knows with the ECM. By the way I did have a Motes chip burned with the early 290 code and bought a Mustang ECM off ebay,it works.

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              • fabio
                • Jul 2014
                • 34

                • California

                • 1997 Ski Nautique

                #8
                I agree with Clint, we make deep dollar purchases with the intent of that purchase to last for as long as we maintain it! Now, it's up to PCM, Correct Craft and Ford to keep up with customer satisfaction. They have the leverage to find a third party to make the ECM's that are much needed!!!!

                I yet to find anyone to help me with this issue. Gary that great that you have found a solution for this issue. Is there a way that you can share how to make a chip?
                Thanks.




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                • gary s
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 333

                  • Algonquin IL

                  • 1969 Mustang SS, 1995 Nautique SS, 1978 Shamrock 20, 1988 Shamrock 170

                  #9
                  Well first I cannot take ANY credit for finding a solution. Read thru this first link,I think it will tell you the story.
                  I was going to wait till spring to announce this, but I have some possible good news for those of you worried about lack of replacement ECUs. I was working

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                  • gary s
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 333

                    • Algonquin IL

                    • 1969 Mustang SS, 1995 Nautique SS, 1978 Shamrock 20, 1988 Shamrock 170

                    #10
                    Here is another link to the Moats.net page that shows the hardware need and available thru them,the Burn2 chip reader/programer and the "chip" the F3v2 Ford memory adapter

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                    • gary s
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 333

                      • Algonquin IL

                      • 1969 Mustang SS, 1995 Nautique SS, 1978 Shamrock 20, 1988 Shamrock 170

                      #11
                      Another interesting link-

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                      • KDownes
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 7

                        • Alice, Texas

                        • 2000 Air Nautique GT40

                        #12
                        Gents, had a similar problem and posted with my ECM for a 2000 Air Nautique with a GT40. Evidently there was an electrical short on high pressure fuel pump which fried this "driver" on the ECM board. PCM / CC Dealer did not have any solutions nor local repair options. I was on my own. My local mechanic hooked me up with a repair facility in Miami that repairs all type of ECMs, automotive and marine. After some UPS charges and $300, i was back in business. Here is the contact info. in case anyone needs it:

                        Solo Auto Electric
                        14361 SW 120th Street
                        Suite 106
                        Miami, FL 33186
                        Attention Alex
                        Tel Ref 305-387-7759

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                        • Up North
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 12

                          • United States

                          • 1985 Ski Nautique, 1998 Air Nautique, 1996 Ski Nautique, 1997 Ski Nautique

                          #13
                          We had the same issue with the pump circuit on our ECM on our GT-40. After continuing to look for a company to repair it, we found a company in Arvada Colorado (ECU Repair Now) http://www.ecurepairnow.com/ that was willing to take a look at it for us. It took them about a month and they ended up having to order some parts and do some research but were able to get us back on the water for around $500. We received it back from them this fall (just before taking the boat out for the season), and it seemed to work like new. Thank you ECU Repair Now!!!!!

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                          • mf01
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 515

                            • Austin, TX


                            #14
                            Are the ECMs on the GT-40s known to go bad?

                            I had a Pro-TEC EFI on my previous 94 Sport and was worried about it going out. I didn't have any issues in 8 years of ownership. I'm now thinking about getting a SAN and thought the GT-40 was a reliable option.
                            Previous:
                            2011 Super Air Nautique 210
                            1994 Sport Nautique

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                            • Tom_H
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 244

                              • Minnesota


                              #15
                              They are reliable, but once replacement computers became obsolete, folks needed to start looking for options in the event the ECM does take a crap. There's been quite a few folks who have been able to source a replacement, so I wouldn't worry about it. You're Protec ignition was much more of a ticking time bomb than a GT-40 is. I've got a Protec TBI in mine, and it's just a matter of time before I'll be swapping to a distributor/carb, but so far, so good.

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