Oil Drain Hose

[niagararob]

Boat in question: 2004 Air 206, ZR6 motor, where the **** is the oil drain hose? I can't get my arm under the motor to feel around very far, I don't see or feel any loose hose anywhere, the manual is no help. Am I going crazy?

[Infinity]

In my boat ZR409....if you are inside the boat facing the stern looking at the motor, the oil drain hose in on left side, 1/3 of the way up motor clipped to one of the engine hooks that is also right next to the remote mount oil filter.
If your motor does not have an oil drain hose, is it possible its made to pump out only...or possible that it was removed by someone? Never seen a boat engine without an oil drain hose so gotta assume its there somewhere unless removed or changed by someone in past.

[niagararob]

i went out and look again at the starboard side (as you suggested, left side facing stern) , but you mentioned beside the filter, which on mine is on the port side. There are a lot of hoses down there, I found out I have ther "Optional water drain kit, 6.0L), which is fine and dandy but where the fuss is the drain line?

[Quinner]

On my Excal it was clipped to the fuel rail from the factory. Did you remove the shroud (on top of the engine) so it is easier to find? The house ran up the front of the motor thru one of the lifting rings, then across the intake manifold, the end has a brass cap.

[Wildcat04]

Someone removed the oil drain hose from my boat before I bought it. I use a topsider to suck it all out.


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[niagararob]

Yes, I removed the shroud. I see nothing that resembles a drain line. Can I reach underneath and find the origin of the drain line? in case its been re-located. "Wildcat" , you know for sure someone removed the drain line?

[Evening Shade]

You may have to figure out a way to get your hand under the oil pan to feel the hose so you can find it. There is a good possibility that could be laying down in the bilge.

It would be very unlikely that someone would have removed it.

[Tom_H]

Hold your phone down under the engine and snap a picture, should tell you if it's there or not.

[Wildcat04]

Yep...I’m positive some removed it because there is a brass plug in the oil pan where the hose should be.


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[charlesml3]

Yep...I’m positive some removed it because there is a brass plug in the oil pan where the hose should be.

I'd sure get one and put it back. It's very handy for oil changes. Drawing the oil out of the dipstick tube is risky.

-Charles

[Quinner]

Drawing the oil out of the dipstick tube is risky.

-Charles

Risky in what way??

If you pump up through the dipstick and then move the hose over to the drain tube and pump up from there, you should get about every last drop out possible. Drain tube will usually get you maybe another 1/4 cup, not that big a deal but better if you have one.

[Evening Shade]

Risky in what way??

If you pump up through the dipstick and then move the hose over to the drain tube and pump up from there, you should get about every last drop out possible. Drain tube will usually get you maybe another 1/4 cup, not that big a deal but better if you have one.

Because the tube of the oil extractor can get stuck in the engine. Believe me it can happen because it happened to me. And when I mean stuck I mean it wouldn't budge at all. I pulled with increasing tension until the tube broke off inside the the dip stick tube. I was afraid that the engine was going to have to be pulled and the pan dropped on a brand new boat with 25 hours because of my screw up. Luckily we were able to remove the dipstick tube and hold the plastic tube with pliers and twist it while gently pulling and was able to get it out.

The problem was that I couldn't tell when the plastic tube bottomed out in the oil pan so I kept pushing it in waiting to feel the bottom of the pan. I assume that the hot oil softened the plastic tube and made it hard to tell when it bottomed out in the pan. When I realized that the tube had to be in too far it was too late. It would not pull back at all! It would only go in. Kind of like Chinese finger cuffs.

The only reason I tried to remove the oil from the dipstick tube is because I couldn't get the oil to pump out of the drain hose. I finally discovered that the drain hose was turned back on itself and kinked under the oil pan because of the way some jack wagon routed it when the engine was installed.

Learn from my mistake and don't let it happen to you.

[charlesml3]

Because the tube of the oil extractor can get stuck in the engine. Believe me it can happen because it happened to me. And when I mean stuck I mean it wouldn't budge at all.

Yep. This incident is the second time I've encountered this. The first time we were able to push/twist/pull about 50 times and it FINALLY came out. We were just about to give up and take it to a mechanic.

The extractor tube fits perfect down the oil drain hose. No reason to thread it down the dipstick tube.

-Charles

[niagararob]

Charles, if you have a drain hose, why would you use the other system? Does this
look like where it should have been?

[charlesml3]

Charles, if you have a drain hose, why would you use the other system?
look like where it should have been?

I'm not sure what you mean by "the other system." My boat is on a lift. I don't even own a trailer. There's no practical way to get under the boat and drain the oil out through the bottom. So I use an oil extractor. There are lots of them on Amazon, Overtons, etc. Actually, even if I had a trailer I'd still use the extractor. It's easier and less messy.

Anyway, it's hard to tell from the photo but that does look like the oil pan plug you have circled there. There should be a brass fitting there with a barb end going to a length of rubber hose. The hose would then have a brass plug screwed onto the end of it.

When I change the oil, I simply remove the brass plug and thread the "snout" of the oil extractor in. It draws the oil out into a can and I later empty it at Jiffy Lube.

-Charles