2006 SV211 used and a few problems.....

[ctsvslp]

My rant if anyone is bored......
Very let down by a NC nautique dealer, i understand i bought used so perhaps it’s my fault. But a great deal of trust had been put in them, the owner assured me they took great pride in going through their used boats THOROUGHLY because they do not like come backs, they also knew i was driving 3.5 hours to pick it up. and i did get a test drive but i apparently missed a lot. if i were closer or not a mechanic (on cars not boats) the boat would have no doubt went straight back. i feel for “supposedly” 1092 hours on the boat (i’ll explain that later) and almost 30k, they got from me was plenty for the boat.
problems:
no trailer brakes, rotors cold as ice every stop for 220 miles, what i have found is that all pads are almost metal to metal, hoping just pads solve the problems after i replace them. (tandem axles, all 4 worn out completely) although the brake fluid looks like mud also so i will flush it all also. it appears to be the original boat mate trailer, built in 2005. no safety chain to boat from trailer, winch only.
the boat:
forward bilge pump inop, unless you hit it and hold it upside down lol, i have replaced it.
hour meter, stuck @ 1092 hours, the tach and every other function works though. i have replaced the gauge (expensive) but have not started the boat since, i do not hold much faith in that it will show correct hours when started..... we will see.
speedometer gauge completely inop.(it works once in a blue moon) it looks like a new paddle wheel and wiring was installed. i do not care about the speedometer since it has nice working perfect pass BUT would love for the depth gauge part of the gauge to work. may buy that gauge sometime, but again their expensive.
volt gauge works at times, but majority it does not, i have been using volt meter on tach when i want to see it.
oil pressure gauge has only worked 1-2 times, again i can check that on tach also, but......
lastly there are no cover poles, but i do have to say it appeared the mechanic who did the boat check over listed that they were missing at least.
I must add the boat is in great shape, interior is perfect and no abnormal amount of gouges/scratches/cracks in gel coat. the engine runs great, they did do a tune up, i have pulled the new plugs and sprayed fogger in the cylinders and pulled the impeller for winter. it appears they also did trans and vdrive seals as they stated had been done.
we have completely fallen in love with nautique and are glad we chose one, as we were looking @ anything wakeboard/wake surf purpose built. we will undoubtably buy another nautique someday.
i have contacted the salesman, only to get a “i will see what we can do” and note all i asked for were gauges and poles for the cover. i told them i would take care of bilge, other gauges and the trailer. i spoke with him 2 times at least and now calls are not returned. i understand i should go over his head since now the chain of command is apparently broken..... but have yet to do so.
we probably put 15+ hours on it since we bought it the end of september. we usually put around 70 hours on our old boat per year. so it’ll get a good work out next summer!!


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[vanhanbr]

So did you notice the gauges didn't work when you did a test drive? Under 30K for that boat is a good deal even with the problems you mentioned.

[scottb7]

Thanks for sharing. I am confident you will get everything worked out, probably without their help. Sounds like a combination of things you should have noticed by looking or on a test drive and things that are just bad luck, that maybe they knew about and choose not to tell you. Like the trailer brakes you probably could tell by looking with a flashlight, and you could have pulled the cap on the fluid. But a not working bilge pump you would probably would not have noticed, unless you sit and listen to see if they cycle on and off.

Lot of tweaks but you'll get it all worked out.

While friends of mine have tried and failed, what I do when i buy used boats is I get in writing a 30 day warranty on non-cosmetic items. I think the reason the sellers say no to my friends when they ask is they are probably dealing with sellers that know their are issues and don't want to admit it. But when I chat with sellers and they say how great their stuff is I always just kind of joke that that is what everyone says, and politely ask if they would give a simple 30 day warranty on non-cosmetic items. If they say no I walk away, as I have had no problem finding sellers willing to do so. I have gotten this from both a dealer and a private individual. Both of which stood behind it when I found some stuff later.

[ctsvslp]

So did you notice the gauges didn't work when you did a test drive? Under 30K for that boat is a good deal even with the problems you mentioned.

i noticed the speedometer cut out 1 time, but we couldn’t duplicate it consistently. and i think that’s about the time he dialed in the surf wave and i got distracted lol i didn’t notice the hours until i was home taking it out the next day and noticed they still said 1092.2 like they do now. thanks for the “good deal” comment, the only reason i believe it to be a decent deal, even with those hours is because i can most likely fix it all myself. just more $$ and the hours and depth gauge bother me the most lol
i really should taken it back and shown them the brakes because i noticed about 15 miles away, i noticed it took a lot longer to stop than my other boat, about the same weight. and i pointed an infrared thermometer on the rotors and they were not warm @ all, i could touch them and they were not functioning @ all.


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[ctsvslp]

Thanks for sharing. I am confident you will get everything worked out, probably without their help. Sounds like a combination of things you should have noticed by looking or on a test drive and things that are just bad luck, that maybe they knew about and choose not to tell you. Like the trailer brakes you probably could tell by looking with a flashlight, and you could have pulled the cap on the fluid. But a not working bilge pump you would probably would not have noticed, unless you sit and listen to see if they cycle on and off.

Lot of tweaks but you'll get it all worked out.

While friends of mine have tried and failed, what I do when i buy used boats is I get in writing a 30 day warranty on non-cosmetic items. I think the reason the sellers say no to my friends when they ask is they are probably dealing with sellers that know their are issues and don't want to admit it. But when I chat with sellers and they say how great their stuff is I always just kind of joke that that is what everyone says, and politely ask if they would give a simple 30 day warranty on non-cosmetic items. If they say no I walk away, as I have had no problem finding sellers willing to do so. I have gotten this from both a dealer and a private individual. Both of which stood behind it when I found some stuff later.

that 30 day is a great idea! we were a little too excited i would say. i definitely should have asked for that. my last boat and only other dealer bought boat i brought 800 miles home, on a brand new trailer though. it had 160 hours and is an 05, and had 0 problems with it, it is a yamaha though and they seem invincible! lol
i just figured my post may just help someone look a little bit closer when they buy. i am lucky though i can do the work easily and have the tools. except for a scan tool for it, i do not have one of those! i see their very expensive!! i bought a yamaha disc and the cable cheap ($60) and downloaded, but that does not look to be the case with these though!


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[scottb7]

If the engine runs well then you won't need a scan tool. So my suggestion is to take that off your tool list. But that is just me.

Agreed your post is a good reminder to check stuff out real thoroughly.

[ctsvslp]

oh yea i have gotten over that idea and i have taken it off my list after researching, LOL and i called the local dealer on the lake we are mostly at and for them to tell me the codes/hours and such is relatively cheap, around $40-50 i think he said.
this summer i’ll get to see if she uses any oil and all that good stuff. that was my biggest scare about the hours, scored pistons and or worn rings from someone not lubing the cylinders when it sits a while.


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[homer12]

I’m sorry to hear about your disappointment and frustration. When I first saw your post though I was expecting to see problems with major mechanicals or hidden / covered up damage. The be encouraging and not a jerk I’d say what you’re dealing with isn’t all that bad on a 12-yr old boat. Biggest issue is probably what are the real hours on this and did you get hosed in that regard but gauge problems can be worked out. If engine runs great and as you said cosmetically it’s looking nice you got a pretty good deal.

I think it’s pretty common for people to ignore their trailer brakes. Especially if they don’t use the trailer to tow much but in and out from a close spot. If you’re a mechanic you can probably get those in tip top shape. I understand it’s not what you wanted to do after dropping $30k on a boat though. You can rest easy in the fact that your boat should hold that value very well for the next several years at least.


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[homer12]

I’m sorry to hear about your disappointment and frustration. When I first saw your post though I was expecting to see problems with major mechanicals or hidden / covered up damage. The be encouraging and not a jerk I’d say what you’re dealing with isn’t all that bad on a 12-yr old boat. Biggest issue is probably what are the real hours on this and did you get hosed in that regard but gauge problems can be worked out. If engine runs great and as you said cosmetically it’s looking nice you got a pretty good deal.

I think it’s pretty common for people to ignore their trailer brakes. Especially if they don’t use the trailer to tow much but in and out from a close spot. If you’re a mechanic you can probably get those in tip top shape. I understand it’s not what you wanted to do after dropping $30k on a boat though. You can rest easy in the fact that your boat should hold that value very well for the next several years at least.


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[ctsvslp]

so, last weekend i had a chance to have my hours read by a local dealer who stated i need the faria box conversion for multiple gauges not working as well as hours being stuck...... now stated hours from the dealer i bought from were 1090 and they gave me a copy of a work order that had those hours on it as well as compression results.... also from a dealer that’s owner stated to me “we take pride in checking boats thoroughly and do not like come backs”
that said..... the actual hours are 1343. there’s no possible way i have put more than 30 hours on it MAX.
lesson learned, i had a great experience with my first used dealership bought boat, and a whole other end of the spectrum with this one! furious to say the least. they also stated before they bought the boat they called the dealer that used to service it, so they had to know, they had to hook up a scan tool and they chose to flat out lie.


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[beamons]

Bummer on the Faria Box issue. That is what I thought was the issue when I first started reading the thread.
I think the real question is with all that you know now... would you have still bought the boat? 30k for an '06 SV211 with 1300 hours on it is still a really good deal even with the issues. Like you and many have said, if the engine, trans and vdrive are strong and the condition is good like you stated, you are in a pretty good spot.

Welcome to the family.