2017 SANTE 230 with 6.0L Raw Water Impeller Replacement

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  • charlesml3
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2453

    • Lake Gaston, NC

    • 2022 G23

    2017 SANTE 230 with 6.0L Raw Water Impeller Replacement

    Gang,

    First time replacing the impeller on my 2017 230 with the 6.0L engine. I've done dozens of these before on the GT-40 and the Excaliber that came in the SV-211. Here's the process for the 230:

    1) You cannot do this from the top. There simply is not enough room to get your arms in there and move wrenches around.

    2) Get everything out of both lockers. Ropes, vests, storage tray, engine divider panels.

    3) On the port side, you will need to deal with the rear bulkhead panel that's attached to the slide for the divider. You can either remove it entirely or work it around where it's out of the way enough to work. I removed mine which involved removing the grease fitting bracket from the panel.

    4) Remove the belt cover. Two knurled knobs up on top. Then swing it out a little and then it will slide down off the pegs at the bottom. I find it's actually best to let it lay in the bilge under all the pulleys. Handy if you drop a washer or something...

    5) With a 15mm wrench, swing the belt tensioner over and remove the belt.

    6) Now switch over to the starboard side locker.

    7) The rear bulkhead panel on this side has to come out. There's just nowhere to position it in such a way that you can access the pump. Unfortunately, the fuel/water separator bracket and the blower bracket are both attached to this panel. Take the bolts out and move them out of the way.

    8) At the top of the panel is some kind of electrical box. I don't know what it does, but there's a plug right there. Disconnect that and take the panel out of the boat.

    9) Next you'll have to decide about the aluminum rails that hold the engine divider panel. I tried to access the pump with this still in the boat. No luck. I just couldn't get to the pump easily. I took the bolts out at the bottom. the screws out at the top and the screws holding it to the front bulkhead panel and took the entire bracket out.

    10) At this point you should have fairly good access to the pump. Grab the pulley and turn it until the holes in the pulley line up with the three bolts holding the pump housing together.

    11) Loosen the three bolts. Note that these bolts are captured. They don't need to come all the way out of the pump housing. Just get them plenty loose and stop there.

    12) Grab the pulley and pull it towards the stern. Almost always, the pulley and housing will slide out leaving the impeller in the pump. Take the pulley out of the boat.

    13) Grab the impeller near the center with needle-nose pliers and wiggle it out.

    14) Cover the new impeller with dish soap to make it slide in easier. Insert it into the pump with a counter-clockwise twisting motion. Push it until it's fully seated into the pump.

    15) Examine the pulley and housing. There will be a big o-ring inside the lip. Remove it with a small screwdriver or something. Replace it with the one in the impeller kit.

    16) There will be three tiny o-rings in the kit. They go onto the bolts if needed. Replace any that are damaged or missing.

    17) Note that the pump shaft has a flat-spot on it which aligns with the impeller. Insert the pulley and housing into the impeller and align the housing with the pump.

    18) Get one bolt started. Don't tighten it down all the way. Once you have one started, the other two go fairly easy. Get the other two started as well.

    19) Go back to the first bolt and get it finger-tight. Then the other two.

    20) Go back to the first bolt and snug it down. Then the other two. You do not need to really crank down on these. Just get them tight and stop there.

    21) Put the belt back on. There's a handy diagram on the belt cover to show you the routing. Make SURE the belt is cleanly seated on every pulley.

    22) Make sure all tools, work lights, etc. are out of the way and either drop the boat into the water or get your fake-a-lake going. Start the engine and look for any leaks around the pump.

    23) Replace the belt cover and all the panels you took out. It's pretty much the reverse of the steps above.

    That's about it. It took me about 2 hours to complete this and honestly, it wasn't that bad. No, not NEARLY as easy as working on a direct-drive GT-40, but it is what it is. I wouldn't hesitate to tackle this project again.

    -Charles
  • GMLIII
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2013
    • 2792

    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

    #2
    Great info. I will compare your time with what my dealer charges me to replace my impeller on my H6. I’ll post that price on this thread soon to see if it is worth my time to tackle on my own next spring.

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    • charlesml3
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 2453

      • Lake Gaston, NC

      • 2022 G23

      #3
      The G23 is different. There is a LOT more room to work and I don't believe you have to take all those bulkhead panels out. IDK. I've never done an impeller replacement on one.

      That said, once you get to the pump the steps are the same.

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      • Infinity
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Sep 2017
        • 730

        • Lake Norman - Denver, NC

        • 2014 SV244 w/ ZR409

        #4
        So Charles, to be clear on the 6.0...you have the ZR409 in your boat? That is the engine I have and I just replaced my impeller a couple weeks ago but luckily didn't have to remove bulkheads (different boat)....I was able to just removed the divider panels so only took me about 30-40mins to replace the impeller. I used same process including the dish soap (I have heard better to have something mild like Dawn...and you can also use marine grease which helps lube the vanes for first startup). No matter how you do it, its tight and you gotta get in there head first.
        I will say something for others since I learned this the hard way and didn't figure it out till someone gave me a tip. I was also replacing my belt for preventative purposes. The new belt was a lot tighter of course and I could not quite get it over the tensioner...someone else told me to not use the tensioner last (cause it has that lip on it), but to slide it over one of the smooth edge idler pulley's last and do tensioner first (which worked. Should have been obvious to me, but I was not that smart that day. Did take 2 people doing it that way with new belt only cause the tensioner was on one side and the smooth pulley on the other. Easy to get old belt back on with 1 person since it was looser. Anyway....throwing it out there for what its worth.

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        • charlesml3
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2453

          • Lake Gaston, NC

          • 2022 G23

          #5
          Yes, the ZR409. And yes again, that's the best way to get the belt on. Put it on the tensioner pulley, swing it over, and then slide it over the smooth circulation pump.

          -Charles

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          • GMLIII
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2013
            • 2792

            • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

            • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

            #6
            I took my G to my dealer to get the impeller changed and they charged me $145.00 for labor and I supplied the new impeller. This dollar amount was well worth it not to change it on my own. Others may disagree but I think money well spent considering the time required to change it on an H6 engine

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            • scottb7
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2198

              • Carson City, Nevada

              • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

              #7
              Originally posted by GMLIII View Post
              I took my G to my dealer to get the impeller changed and they charged me $145.00 for labor and I supplied the new impeller. This dollar amount was well worth it not to change it on my own. Others may disagree but I think money well spent considering the time required to change it on an H6 engine
              Of course others "may" disagree. And some people would pay extra for a camera when they can actually turn their head. Glad you are happy with your price. It would take me about 20 minutes to change mine.

              And how much is a pocket door vs. a slide in air dam vs none at all..it is just different way of spending money.
              Last edited by scottb7; 04-20-2018, 06:49 PM.

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              • GMLIII
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • May 2013
                • 2792

                • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                #8
                Yes sir I’ll bend over and take another . Do you have a positive comment about anything and I mean anything? You have an ax to grind on this forum no doubt .
                Yes bend over I’ll take another.
                Scottb7

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                • scottb7
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2198

                  • Carson City, Nevada

                  • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                  #9
                  I was positive. I am glad you are happy with your purchase.
                  Last edited by scottb7; 04-20-2018, 07:28 PM.

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                  • Jakeb
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 54

                    • Lacey, WA

                    • 2015 SAN G21

                    #10
                    I just had to change on a 450. Call me a dummy but how do you get the tension right when putting the belt on?

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                    • charlesml3
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 2453

                      • Lake Gaston, NC

                      • 2022 G23

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jakeb View Post
                      I just had to change on a 450. Call me a dummy but how do you get the tension right when putting the belt on?
                      There's no adjustment. The tensioner pulley is spring loaded. It will always apply the correct tension. Just swing it over and put the belt on. Trace all the pulleys and make sure the belt is seated. You're good to go.

                      -Charles

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