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  • Kmayotte
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Apr 2010
    • 819

    • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

    • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

    Starting G out of water

    Anyone starting their G out of the water? I have the H6 if that matters...

    How are you hooking up a water supply to the cooling system?

    I've found a fake-a-lake won't work under the boat because the grate on the pickup is too big. Could not for the life of me get the cooling hoses off near the strainer to insert a garden hose. Plus they're large diameter hoses. In my previous 210 the hoses were smaller and I could clamp the hose right in there.

    Maybe I'm being a dope and missing something here...
  • nohlan_4
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2016
    • 413

    • Canada

    • 2013 G23 450

    #2
    Originally posted by Kmayotte View Post
    Anyone starting their G out of the water? I have the H6 if that matters...

    How are you hooking up a water supply to the cooling system?

    I've found a fake-a-lake won't work under the boat because the grate on the pickup is too big. Could not for the life of me get the cooling hoses off near the strainer to insert a garden hose. Plus they're large diameter hoses. In my previous 210 the hoses were smaller and I could clamp the hose right in there.

    Maybe I'm being a dope and missing something here...
    On my boat I made my own in line valve off the main pickup right after the 1/4 main valve. Just used a pvc ball valve and the appropriate fittings to hook a garden hose directly up it. Works like a charm. I would take pictures for you but my boat is still in storage for a couple weeks. Afterwards I can though.

    Can also use this:

    http://www.perko.com/catalog/underwa.../62/flush_pro/

    But after seeing the price I just made my own.

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    • Kmayotte
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2010
      • 819

      • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

      • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

      #3
      Originally posted by nohlan_4 View Post

      On my boat I made my own in line valve off the main pickup right after the 1/4 main valve. Just used a pvc ball valve and the appropriate fittings to hook a garden hose directly up it. Works like a charm. I would take pictures for you but my boat is still in storage for a couple weeks. Afterwards I can though.

      Can also use this:

      http://www.perko.com/catalog/underwa.../62/flush_pro/

      But after seeing the price I just made my own.
      Pictures when you have your boat would be great. I will likely take on this project over the summer. How difficult was the install? Removing/Cutting hoses etc.

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      • nohlan_4
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jan 2016
        • 413

        • Canada

        • 2013 G23 450

        #4
        Originally posted by Kmayotte View Post

        Pictures when you have your boat would be great. I will likely take on this project over the summer. How difficult was the install? Removing/Cutting hoses etc.
        Straight forward I cut it in the boat and just put my valve in. One cut two hose clamps and done. The hose has reinforcement wire in it that I had to use wire cutters on. The rest was sharp razor knife.

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        • Kmayotte
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Apr 2010
          • 819

          • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

          • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

          #5
          Got a perko flush from @bhazard5c (big thanks for the hookup)

          Installed suuuuper easy and had my boat running in the driveway within a half hour of pulling the cover off and starting the install.

          Projects never go that easy! Woo hoo.

          Also it probably saved me a big issue and headache as when I turned on the hose water starting spilling in the hull bottom and I learned the hose leaving the strainer was not hooked up.

          Looking forward to having an issue way to flush anti freeze too.


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          Last edited by Kmayotte; 05-08-2018, 07:28 AM.

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          • jharris
            • Sep 2010
            • 243

            • Michigan

            • 2022 G23

            #6
            Originally posted by Kmayotte
            Got a perko flush from @bhazard5c (big thanks for the hookup)

            Installed suuuuper easy and had my boat running in the driveway within a half hour of pulling the cover off and starting the install.

            Projects never go that easy! Woo hoo.

            Also it probably saved me a big issue and headache as when I turned on the hose water starting spilling in the hill bottom and I learned the hose leaving the strainer was not hooked up.

            Looking forward to having an issue way to flush anti freeze too.


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            This looks like a great idea. Can you snap a picture of the install. What size hose size Perko did you order. I think I want to do this as well.

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            • charlesml3
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 2453

              • Lake Gaston, NC

              • 2022 G23

              #7
              "Flush Pro also makes winterizing easy. Simply close your seacock after the system is drained, take off the Flush Pro cap & drop the 5/8" winterizing fitting into the Flush Pro valve. Insert one end of a 5/8" tube into the fitting and the other end into your antifreeze. Start your engine & run until the proper amount of antifreeze is sucked into the engine. Remove the winterizing fitting, replace the cap on the Flush Pro valve & you're ready for below freezing temperatures."

              Ha! ha! There are a couple of people on this forum that will scream bloody murder over this, swearing it'll ruin your engine...

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              • Kmayotte
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Apr 2010
                • 819

                • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

                • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

                #8
                I will definitely being using the Flush Pro to put antifreeze through the cooling system. Can't be too safe with a New England winter.

                I pay no mind to the people that say this is bad for the engine. Probably the same group who says you can't leave your boat in the water for long periods because it will ruin the hull. It's a boat and I will use it and treat it as such.

                Installed pic below. It's the 1 1/4" model for my 2016 G23. I simply cut the hose with a hacksaw (had to snip the wire inside the hose). Slid one end on the flush pro (a little bit of grease made this easy). I trimmed about 4" off the hose so it would sit nicely and inserted the second end. Tightened the hose clamps. Done. You can see the flush pro has an arrow to make it fool proof which way it should be installed (water flows in direction of arrow).


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                • wakehead
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 240



                  #9
                  Hi Guys, I have a 2008 ZR6, and I try to keep it simple. All I do is take off the hose that goes into the water basket strainer and replace it with another hose about 6 feet long that I bought from the local hardware store. Believe it or not the diameter of that of a hose outlet from a washing machine worked perfect and it was a nice soft rubber so I could seal it well with hose clamps. I ran the other end into a big Tupperware bin I had, turned the hose on to keep feeding the water in the bin and voila .... this set up costed me 10$. This is my method of choice. I have hear horror stories of the flush pro acting up and not allowing water flow when on the lake.
                  210 SANTE

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                  • Tom_H
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 244

                    • Minnesota


                    #10
                    Originally posted by charlesml3 View Post
                    "Flush Pro also makes winterizing easy. Simply close your seacock after the system is drained, take off the Flush Pro cap & drop the 5/8" winterizing fitting into the Flush Pro valve. Insert one end of a 5/8" tube into the fitting and the other end into your antifreeze. Start your engine & run until the proper amount of antifreeze is sucked into the engine. Remove the winterizing fitting, replace the cap on the Flush Pro valve & you're ready for below freezing temperatures."

                    Ha! ha! There are a couple of people on this forum that will scream bloody murder over this, swearing it'll ruin your engine...
                    If you re-read that quote you posted, you'll see "....after the system is drained....", so no, I don't think anyone will scream bloody murder over using the Flush-Pro to introduce anti-freeze after draining, as It's no different than the suck up method many use. If you choose not to drain, that's your choice, and potentially your consequences.

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                    • Kmayotte
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 819

                      • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

                      • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tom_H View Post

                      If you re-read that quote you posted, you'll see "....after the system is drained....", so no, I don't think anyone will scream bloody murder over using the Flush-Pro to introduce anti-freeze after draining, as It's no different than the suck up method many use. If you choose not to drain, that's your choice, and potentially your consequences.
                      I think charlesml3 is talking about using anti freeze at all. Some don't want it in their engine ever regardless of pre-drain or post-drain.

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                      • GMLIII
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 2792

                        • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                        • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                        #12
                        I have a twist to this thread. Since I have a coastal edition, I already have a garden hose end attachment in my portside stern locker which was part of the coastal edition package. Couldn't I suck down antifreeze at the garden hose attachment end in the same manner described with the Flush Pro?
                        Last edited by GMLIII; 05-08-2018, 12:59 PM.

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                        • scottb7
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2198

                          • Carson City, Nevada

                          • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                          #13
                          If you have what the manual describes as "freshwater flushing kit" then you can both run the boat from that fitting and draw in antifreeze. I did this last year - first year i had to winterize my g21 - to pull in the antifreeze. And again last week to run the boat in driveway to ensure everything worked before heading to the launch.

                          This item is an optional item for non-coastal boats, and like you said probably included in coastal editions. I am unsure on this matter.
                          Last edited by scottb7; 05-08-2018, 12:45 PM.

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                          • Infinity
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 730

                            • Lake Norman - Denver, NC

                            • 2014 SV244 w/ ZR409

                            #14
                            GMLIII Seems to me like you can do that without any issue but I have found that without any pressure, once you drain the water out of the system...the impeller does not always like to suck in the AF since system is no longer primed with water so it sucks air (flush pro has a fitting that compresses the ball so not a ton of room for the AF to bypass without pressure, you may not have that issue on your hose attachment tho.. I actually made a 5 gallon bucket last Spring with hose end on it for this purpose. If there is water in system and its already primed, it will pull it thru no issue but once you drain all the water (at least for me), it was an issue and would not suck in the AF thru the flush pro.
                            What I did is buy a cheaper sump pump from harbor freight. I put one end in my bucket of AF and screw the other end to the Flush Pro....I start up the sump pump and then immediately fire up the engine. Since the pump is "pushing" the AF thru, obviously no issue priming and in about 45 seconds, I run 5 gallons of the AF thru my system and fill it (start coming out exhaust at 3.5-4 gallons). I also usually remove the thermostat and pour some AF down that hose since unless thermostat is open, I assume none gets in there. Only needs about half gallon and it starts running out exhaust, but figure its good peace of mind. Don't know if that part is needed or not.
                            I like the AF for the double protection against freezing....supposed to have anti-corrosive qualities so no corrosion can build up in engine due to left over bits of water...and assume that keeping the impeller wet will also keep it in better shape, tho I always replace that in the Spring anyway so it does not sit over winter and possible take a set.
                            This is of course using the RV anti-freeze that is non-toxic

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                            • scottb7
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2198

                              • Carson City, Nevada

                              • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                              #15
                              So this is where it gets complicated in a hurry...because the interaction of a "thermostat" or not will depend on whether you are working on a full freshwater or partial system...

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