18' GS22 Listing

[stangs400]

Hey Guys, we built a new 18' GS22 this year and have had a problem with it listing towards port side ever since we put it in the water. This is only when it is in Ski mode, ballast empty. This as you can imagine throws a large wake to the starboard side making it next to impossible to ski. Our dealer has replaced the NSS plates on the back, as they thought the port side may be sticking. But, this changed nothing. Our dealer came out the other day and put a straight edge on the hull and said there might a "hook" in the hull.
The only way we can get the boat to level out is to put about 300lbs in the port side tank and 250lbs in the Bow tank. But this extra weight also causes a hard and rampy ski wake, that feels like your knees are going to blow out when you hit it.
Has anyone had any troubles like this? If so, what was the resolution?

[d_nodixon]

Any chance the tank on that side is not emptying

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[GMLIII]

Hey Guys, we built a new 18' GS22 this year and have had a problem with it listing towards port side ever since we put it in the water. This is only when it is in Ski mode, ballast empty. This as you can imagine throws a large wake to the starboard side making it next to impossible to ski. Our dealer has replaced the NSS plates on the back, as they thought the port side may be sticking. But, this changed nothing. Our dealer came out the other day and put a straight edge on the hull and said there might a "hook" in the hull.
The only way we can get the boat to level out is to put about 300lbs in the port side tank and 250lbs in the Bow tank. But this extra weight also causes a hard and rampy ski wake, that feels like your knees are going to blow out when you hit it.
Has anyone had any troubles like this? If so, what was the resolution?

Put 250 lbs of ballast lead bags under port side observer seat and it should help with your problem . Just leave them there and never move them. I had same problem on my boat , and lead shot bags solved my problem instantly.

[stangs400]

Ballast are empty.

I understand adding additional ballast to the port side will level it out. But this being a new boat, and being told that this is not normal and should not be happening is of concern.
We shouldnt have to take up any of our storage space to "fix" an issue with a boat that is not suppose to have this issue. Im looking for actual fixes to this issue, as opposed to a bandaid fix.

[GMLIII]

Better get used to it . All these boats Gs , GS do this from the torque of the prop . Yes I have a $150,000 boat with a 250 lb shot bag bandaid under my port side observer seat with no ballast and the boat is level all the time end of story. Get used to this bandaid to end your problem

[distinguishedmotorsports]

Lead. have read on here that the factory will place lead under the floor to "true" boats that do not sit level on the water. i would see if you can throw some weight under the starboard bow seat towards the driver foot area. sand is slightly less expensive and way less toxic to marine life should your bilge level ever hit it.

[GMLIII]

Lead. have read on here that the factory will place lead under the floor to "true" boats that do not sit level on the water. i would see if you can throw some weight under the starboard bow seat towards the driver foot area. sand is slightly less expensive and way less toxic to marine life should your bilge level ever hit it.

It is actually not lead they are steel shot bags . Each 50 lb bag is approx $50 to $59 deepening on quantity purchased

[charlesml3]

Better get used to it . All these boats Gs , GS do this from the torque of the prop . Yes I have a $150,000 boat with a 250 lb shot bag bandaid under my port side observer seat with no ballast and the boat is level all the time end of story. Get used to this bandaid to end your problem

Agreed. These are single-engine boats with one prop. There HAS to be list due to prop rotation. No getting around that.

[Tallredrider]

Hey Guys, we built a new 18' GS22 this year and have had a problem with it listing towards port side ever since we put it in the water. This is only when it is in Ski mode, ballast empty. This as you can imagine throws a large wake to the starboard side making it next to impossible to ski. Our dealer has replaced the NSS plates on the back, as they thought the port side may be sticking. But, this changed nothing. Our dealer came out the other day and put a straight edge on the hull and said there might a "hook" in the hull.
The only way we can get the boat to level out is to put about 300lbs in the port side tank and 250lbs in the Bow tank. But this extra weight also causes a hard and rampy ski wake, that feels like your knees are going to blow out when you hit it.
Has anyone had any troubles like this? If so, what was the resolution?

It is critical that you say if the boat lists when it is at rest. If it only lists at speed, then yes, it is due to prop torque as others have suggested. What size prop is on the GS22? It is made worse when the prop is large. I wonder if you got a smaller prop with a higher pitch if it might help, but not give up too much performance.

Did the boat you test drove do this?

[GMLIII]

Hey Guys, we built a new 18' GS22 this year and have had a problem with it listing towards port side ever since we put it in the water. This is only when it is in Ski mode, ballast empty. This as you can imagine throws a large wake to the starboard side making it next to impossible to ski. Our dealer has replaced the NSS plates on the back, as they thought the port side may be sticking. But, this changed nothing. Our dealer came out the other day and put a straight edge on the hull and said there might a "hook" in the hull.
The only way we can get the boat to level out is to put about 300lbs in the port side tank and 250lbs in the Bow tank. But this extra weight also causes a hard and rampy ski wake, that feels like your knees are going to blow out when you hit it.
Has anyone had any troubles like this? If so, what was the resolution?

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Here you go

[Scoma]

And just to confirm, I assume this is happening when the only person in the boat is the driver and you are pulling a skier? We have found, like you, that Slalom Ski mode is very sensitive to weight distribution. The math for us is pretty simple -- we add ballast on the port side equal to the weight of the driver. Don't put anything in the bow. I called Nautique when it first occurred and they recommended either that or the lead weights.

[GMLIII]

And just to confirm, I assume this is happening when the only person in the boat is the driver and you are pulling a skier? We have found, like you, that Slalom Ski mode is very sensitive to weight distribution. The math for us is pretty simple -- we add ballast on the port side equal to the weight of the driver. Don't put anything in the bow. I called Nautique when it first occurred and they recommended either that or the lead weights.

Althrough I have a G23 and do not pull skiers ; I pull wakeboarders and had same issue. You can do as Scoma suggests but it becomes a pain over time to tweak the ballast to counter the prop rotation while you have a skier each time. Put the steel shot ballast bags under port observer seat and you are done, no more tweaking of ballast tanks while skiiing. I would recommend purchasing 5 fifty lbs bags and work down from that number of bags as needed to stop the listing of the boat

[scottb7]

Agreed. These are single-engine boats with one prop. There HAS to be list due to prop rotation. No getting around that.

True, although this is a Nautique only thing. Maybe when other mfgs roll out more 17" props it will occur, but not happening on any of my friends axis or malibu's. Don't the most current LINC's allow for "ballast shift" to compensate?

And I can tell you that the first time you get your new (or new to you) boat out on the water with no ballast, all proud and this and that, with no water (ballast) and you had across the lake going sideways (leaning over), you do kind of wonder, what the heck is going on...It was pretty disconcerting for me, coming from the 2008 210...just sayin.

[bandit628]

Even in my 210, I have 125lbs on the port side to counter the prop listing.

[GMLIII]

True, although this is a Nautique only thing. Maybe when other mfgs roll out more 17" props it will occur, but not happening on any of my friends axis or malibu's. Don't the most current LINC's allow for "ballast shift" to compensate?

And I can tell you that the first time you get your new (or new to you) boat out on the water with no ballast, all proud and this and that, with no water (ballast) and you had across the lake going sideways (leaning over), you do kind of wonder, what the heck is going on...It was pretty disconcerting for me, coming from the 2008 210...just sayin.

Yes mine has ballast shift but still a pain to tweak each and every time which was the reason I purchased the shot bags