18' GS22 Listing

[Tallredrider]

On my foiling preset, I have it fill the port side about 200 pounds. So it takes no more energy than it does to set the speed.

How is that a pain once you have it set up? If I weren't such a tightwad, I would have some leadwake or comparable, but hate the idea of carrying that weight on the trailer and all the time in the boat.

[GMLIII]

On my foiling preset, I have it fill the port side about 200 pounds. So it takes no more energy than it does to set the speed.

How is that a pain once you have it set up? If I weren't such a tightwad, I would have some leadwake or comparable, but hate the idea of carrying that weight on the trailer and all the time in the boat.

I just like the fact when. I’m just cruising I can jump in the boat and go. Don’t have to counter balance anything . Love my steel shot bags. They are the bomb

[stangs400]

I understand some list is going to happen and especially when it is just me as a single driver towing a skier. But I am talking about a 30-40 degree list towards the starboard side. The demo boat we tried did not do this, and neither did a friends gs22. The dealer has drove it and said its not normal.
If I can figure out how to post a video I will.
I have owned many other boats, Malibus, Mastercraft, and even a SAN 230, and nothing has been this bad. I literally cannot turn the boat left without slowing way down without the fear of it keeling over.
Im know ballast will inevitably help the issue. I am just asking if anyone has had this big of an issue, and what the actual resolution was to fix it, because this is not your normal list. There is definitely an underlying issue. At 20-32mph one side of the wake looks like a slalom wake, but the other side is about 12" tall and looks like you would wakeboard off of it. See Pic-

[Tallredrider]

I just like the fact when. I’m just cruising I can jump in the boat and go. Don’t have to counter balance anything . Love my steel shot bags. They are the bomb

Good point. You could consider adding the 200 pounds port ballast to the 'back to dock' setting as well. I will be on the boat for a week straight this week, I will have to pay attention, but on a G23, it seems the list gets less as you go faster? But maybe it is because the only time I go 30 MPH is when all of the crew is in the boat.

[Tallredrider]

I understand some list is going to happen and especially when it is just me as a single driver towing a skier. But I am talking about a 30-40 degree list towards the starboard side. The demo boat we tried did not do this, and neither did a friends gs22. The dealer has drove it and said its not normal.
If I can figure out how to post a video I will.
I have owned many other boats, Malibus, Mastercraft, and even a SAN 230, and nothing has been this bad. I literally cannot turn the boat left without slowing way down without the fear of it keeling over.
Im know ballast will inevitably help the issue. I am just asking if anyone has had this big of an issue, and what the actual resolution was to fix it, because this is not your normal list. There is definitely an underlying issue. At 20-32mph one side of the wake looks like a slalom wake, but the other side is about 12" tall and looks like you would wakeboard off of it. See Pic-

Whoa! I know more than one of us asked, but you never answered: Are you sure you do not list when at rest? Even a G boat needs less than that much weight to correct the list.

[stangs400]

The boat does not list when at rest. It starts to list at about 9-11 mph.

[GMLIII]

The boat does not list when at rest. It starts to list at about 9-11 mph.

Have you tweaked the adjustable rudder setting on the actual rudder, that may help? If I owned your boat I would spend the dollars and at least get the shot bags to see if that solves your problem. Buy 5 and work down from that number . Your dealer does not seem to really know what is going on so rather then being unhappy all summer try the shot bags

[stangs400]

Have you tweaked the adjustable rudder setting on the actual rudder, that may help? If I owned your boat I would spend the dollars and at least get the shot bags to see if that solves your problem. Buy 5 and work down from that number . Your dealer does not seem to really know what is going on so rather then being unhappy all summer try the shot bags

We have tweaked the rudder tab ever which way. It only effects how the boat tracks.

It takes 500lbs of stock ballast to get it to level out at speed. This inevitably makes the ski wake rather harsh. But then it doesnt sit level at anything under 10mph. So im not so sure adding shot ballast is going to do much different?
We may just be out of luck until Nautique has a resolution. Thanks for all the input so far!

[ffmedic74]

I don't even remember my ski nautiques direct drives listing that much.

[scottb7]

Did anyone with a gs respond? I thought only the g listed, due to 17 inch prop. Do all the nautiques list now?

[xlair]

My guess is you have a defective Hull based on how bad the list is


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[Evening Shade]

My GS20 doesn't list at all as far as I can tell. Must be something wrong. You have to get your dealer involved.

[Wake.BC]

You understand how much 30-40 degrees is right?....


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[whitecaps]

I understand some list is going to happen and especially when it is just me as a single driver towing a skier. But I am talking about a 30-40 degree list towards the starboard side. The demo boat we tried did not do this, and neither did a friends gs22. The dealer has drove it and said its not normal.
If I can figure out how to post a video I will.
I have owned many other boats, Malibus, Mastercraft, and even a SAN 230, and nothing has been this bad. I literally cannot turn the boat left without slowing way down without the fear of it keeling over.
Im know ballast will inevitably help the issue. I am just asking if anyone has had this big of an issue, and what the actual resolution was to fix it, because this is not your normal list. There is definitely an underlying issue. At 20-32mph one side of the wake looks like a slalom wake, but the other side is about 12" tall and looks like you would wakeboard off of it. See Pic-

Is your picture above showing what things look like in "ski mode"? I have noticed the same thing with ours in "ski mode". Heavy list as seen above. I dont like it either. It seems like when the NCRS is deployed downward driving the bow down and creating the flattest wake it also lists it to the side as seen in your picture. If I take ours out of ski mode and set the NCRS in the 4-5 range it goes away but wake isnt quite as flat. I do feel its a result of a very large diameter prop with less pitch. I feel like a different prop may benefit those of us that still like to waterski. I'm sure that the boat's ability to hold surf speeds may be compromised with more pitch and less diameter but I'd like to see how it'd do.

[stangs400]

Is your picture above showing what things look like in "ski mode"? I have noticed the same thing with ours in "ski mode". Heavy list as seen above. I dont like it either. It seems like when the NCRS is deployed downward driving the bow down and creating the flattest wake it also lists it to the side as seen in your picture. If I take ours out of ski mode and set the NCRS in the 4-5 range it goes away but wake isnt quite as flat. I do feel its a result of a very large diameter prop with less pitch. I feel like a different prop may benefit those of us that still like to waterski. I'm sure that the boat's ability to hold surf speeds may be compromised with more pitch and less diameter but I'd like to see how it'd do.

This is non ski mode. I found the same results as you in ski mode.

Ive found my angles using the Pro Angle app. At speed (32 mph) we are resting around 13 degrees of list towards starboard side. This is with 250 pounds ballast in the port tank and 250lbs ballast in belly. For some reason adding to the belly has helped almost more than adding to the port side.

Ive been dabbling with the idea of just getting a dedicated ski boat at this point and a getting a g23 for surf and wake. Im sure the wife would love that!