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  • bfosbenner
    • Mar 2019
    • 9

    • Beesleys Point, NJ

    • 2007 196

    Remove PerfectPass add Speedo

    I have a 2007 196 Team with ZO and PerfectPass from factory. I don't use PerfectPass and want to take it out and put the speedo back in. I see the harness from the Perfect Pass integrates into the main dash harness. Can I simply plug the harness intro the speedo instead of the PP module or do I need another module to control the gages if PP is removed.
  • charlesml3
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2454

    • Lake Gaston, NC

    • 2022 G23

    #2
    I don't really understand what you're trying to accomplish here. The PerfectPass display has a speedometer on it. Aren't you just replacing one perfectly good speedometer with another?

    -Charles

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    • bfosbenner
      • Mar 2019
      • 9

      • Beesleys Point, NJ

      • 2007 196

      #3
      I have ZO also, and I don't use the PP. I like the look of the factory speedo and tach. The trim plate is cracked so I am taking it apart anyway. I know ZO shows my speed.

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      • beamons
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jun 2017
        • 376

        • Utah

        • 2005 Ski Nautique Limited Looking for a 230 or g23 prev. 1998 Ski Nautique, 2004 Nautique SV211

        #4
        bfosbenner, I would be interested in your PP if you are removing it. I would like the whole system.



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        • charlesml3
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2454

          • Lake Gaston, NC

          • 2022 G23

          #5
          Originally posted by bfosbenner View Post
          I have ZO also, and I don't use the PP. I like the look of the factory speedo and tach. The trim plate is cracked so I am taking it apart anyway. I know ZO shows my speed.
          OK, but you'll most likely end up regretting this. At some point you're going to need speed control. Someone is going to start wakeboarding and you'll need it. Then there's the problem of selling the boat. Nobody will buy it without the PerfectPass.

          -Charles

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          • bfosbenner
            • Mar 2019
            • 9

            • Beesleys Point, NJ

            • 2007 196

            #6
            Originally posted by charlesml3 View Post

            OK, but you'll most likely end up regretting this. At some point you're going to need speed control. Someone is going to start wakeboarding and you'll need it. Then there's the problem of selling the boat. Nobody will buy it without the PerfectPass.

            -Charles
            Not really, PerfectPass is not the sought after speed control amongst local water skiers. I have Zero Off that works great. I has same pull as promo boats.

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            • beamons
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jun 2017
              • 376

              • Utah

              • 2005 Ski Nautique Limited Looking for a 230 or g23 prev. 1998 Ski Nautique, 2004 Nautique SV211

              #7
              Do you know where the speed is coming from? Pitot, Paddle wheel or GPS?


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              • bfosbenner
                • Mar 2019
                • 9

                • Beesleys Point, NJ

                • 2007 196

                #8
                I do not, no Pitot on the boat though. Since most 196's came with Perfect Pass standard (mine also has ZO) I wonder if that module is the gage controller as well as provides speed input from the paddlewheel. The PP head has always been disconnected since I purchased it as it will conflict with ZO. The master module is always connected.

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                • beamons
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 376

                  • Utah

                  • 2005 Ski Nautique Limited Looking for a 230 or g23 prev. 1998 Ski Nautique, 2004 Nautique SV211

                  #9
                  I think that era was a paddle wheel unless it was the stargazer(GPS) I would assume you should be able to connect the speedo to that through the gateway or something.

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                  • bfosbenner
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 9

                    • Beesleys Point, NJ

                    • 2007 196

                    #10
                    With the help of Nautique Parts I figured it out. My boat is SE model and has "old" style direct wired gages. There is green wire in the harness that is the paddle wheel signal.
                    I can see where PP taps into it. The boat harness is evidently pre-wired for the PerfectPass, so its module can plug right into the system.

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                    • hladyb
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 43

                      • canada mb

                      • 1994 ski nautique

                      #11
                      Interested in selling ur pp unit?

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                      • bfosbenner
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 9

                        • Beesleys Point, NJ

                        • 2007 196

                        #12
                        FYI, my perfect pass unit is for Drive By wire.

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