Ridiculously tight raw water strainer cup?

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  • charlesml3
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2453

    • Lake Gaston, NC

    • 2022 G23
    #1

    Ridiculously tight raw water strainer cup?

    Gang,

    Decided it was time to clean the raw water strainer yesterday and wow, that turned out to be a JOB. The cup is ridiculously tight. I had to use a strap wrench and I'm not talking about breaking it loose. I had to use the strap wrench the ENTIRE TIME just to turn the cup. Same thing putting it back on.

    The one on my old 99 Air Nautique was super easy. No tools required to take it off or put it back on. My 2017 SANTE 230 was not as easy, but I could do it by hand.

    Anyone else on a newer Nautique tried cleaning the raw water strainer yet?

    -Charles
    Last edited by charlesml3; 07-01-2019, 01:02 PM. Reason: A word.
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  • blueroom
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Mar 2017
    • 615

    • Northwest

    • G23
    #2
    Ya. Same issue. It came off stiff. I had to replace it due to a leak and the new one spun right on.

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    • Evening Shade
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 1295

      • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

      • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200
      #3
      I had to use a strap wrench to loosen mine, but then it was easy to turn by hand. Sounds like something is wrong with yours. Clearly you would've notice galled treads if it was cross-threaded when it was installed at the factory.
      2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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      • Kmayotte
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Apr 2010
        • 819

        • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

        • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN
        #4
        Similar experience on '16 G23

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        • nyryan2001
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1993

          • Lake Anna

          #5
          16hrs on mine and just cleaned yesterday. It certainly was pretty tight.

          and... I’m glad I cleaned it. Lots of junk in there already... thought it would be cleaner.

          use a strap wrench, not the biggest deal
          2019 G23 450
          2014 G23 550
          2013 G23 450
          2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
          2007 Yamaha AR210

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          • charlesml3
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 2453

            • Lake Gaston, NC

            • 2022 G23
            #6
            The threads look fine. No galling. For some reason it's just incredibly tight. I can't turn it by hand at all.

            I've emailed the service manager at my dealer. Let me see what they want to do here. This just doesn't seem right to me.

            -Charles

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            • XBIGPUN66
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Oct 2012
              • 456

              • WI

              • 2014 SAN 210 TE. NSS. Pro ballast.
              #7
              Mine is very tight also. The dealer told me that is the way it is. The cup on my 2004 210 was much easier.

              Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

              Ian S
              2014 SANTE. NSS. Pro balllast. Boatmate trailer
              2004 SANTE. 4000 lb ballast, 2013 graphics (prev). Ramlin trailer
              2009 Moomba Outback (prev). Boatmate trailer

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              • Last Mango
                • Jun 2019
                • 25

                • Windermere, FL

                • 2019 GS20
                #8
                2019 GS 20. Strainer is a ridiculously tough to turn, and a giant PITA to get threaded. Getting the thread started, and it spun on should take 15 seconds, not 15 minutes. I'm considering changing to a Perko brass strainer.

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                • kylant
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • May 2010
                  • 538

                  • Lake Tahoe

                  • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique
                  #9
                  gs22. removed mine at the lake the other day to empty. it was tight, but removable by hand.

                  now getting it to thread back on, that is another story. super difficult. I kept thinking it was starting to cross thread. no where as easy as my 2000 Air was. i just had visions of being towed back to the marina because i couldn't get the stupid strainer back on.

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                  • charlesml3
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2453

                    • Lake Gaston, NC

                    • 2022 G23
                    #10
                    Originally posted by kylant View Post
                    gs22. removed mine at the lake the other day to empty. it was tight, but removable by hand.

                    now getting it to thread back on, that is another story. super difficult. I kept thinking it was starting to cross thread. no where as easy as my 2000 Air was. i just had visions of being towed back to the marina because i couldn't get the stupid strainer back on.
                    Totally agree. My 99 Air's strainer was super easy on and off. I have no idea why/what changed. My dealer replaced mine under warranty and it's better, but still not what it was in my old boat.

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                    • kdonzi123
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 88

                      • Lake Hopatcong

                      • 2018 230
                      #11
                      I was at my dealer and he had one in his hand. I asked him about it . Seems that they are all the same. Very tight and you have to watch crossing it when reinstalling. He said he takes them out of the boat to service them. Which is what i did with mine. Not going to be good if you suck something up out on the lake. Plus they relocated it on the 2018 230 and its a real pain i think.

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                      • bturner
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Jun 2019
                        • 1564

                        • MI

                        • 2016 200 Sport Nautique
                        #12
                        Holy cow I'm glad I saw this. Mine is the same way but check this out......

                        Just got the boat (used, but new to me 16 200 Sport) and decided I'd pull the strainer just to see if anything was in it and try while not on the lake in case I had to do it while on the lake. After failing to get it off using my GI Joe Kung Fu grip I went and got a oil filter wrench. It was hard to get off even with the oil filter wrench. I figured some idiot cross threaded it but after closely inspecting both the bowl and the strainer I couldn't see anything wrong with it. Went to put it back on and it was incredibly difficult to get started. At that point I decided it was time for it to go. Bought a new one off Amazon, tried it straight out of the box and it was super easy to get it to start and thread so I marked it up as one of those things and installed it in the boat. Job done, all is right with the world again.

                        That was about 5 hours of boat time and 2 weeks ago (been a very bad summer up here). Decided to call it a summer and started winterizing the boat. Went to pull the bowl on the strainer to dump out the water, the dang thing is exactly the same as the old one was and I had to use an oil filter wrench to get it off.

                        But wait there's more....... I kept the old one figuring I could use it for parts someday. I go pick it off the shelf and try taking the bowl off, it comes of effortlessly. I try threading it back on, no problem whatsoever. I even try cross threading it a bit, doesn't happen unless I really try.

                        I'm thinking the plastic on either the bowl or the strainer is swelling from either the heat or the water. I'm leaning towards the water as the boat was cool both times I tried to take the bowl off. After seeing this I'm thinking about contacting perko to see if they know about this being a problem.

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                        • Skidave
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • May 2005
                          • 697

                          • York, PA

                          • 2003 Air 206 Team Sold: 1979 Ski Nautique (Brown!)
                          #13
                          Cold water 'shrinkage' .

                          Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

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                          • Evening Shade
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 1295

                            • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                            • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200
                            #14
                            I wonder if a teflon lube such as this would help? I used to use this stuff on the o-ring/threads of the plastic lid of my old pre-filter strainer on my pool.

                            https://www.amazon.com/Aladdin-Magic.../dp/B008GTWE8I
                            2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                            • bturner
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Jun 2019
                              • 1564

                              • MI

                              • 2016 200 Sport Nautique
                              #15
                              Hey I'd be willing to try it but I don't know if I want the wife and kids knowing I'm ordering Magic Lube off the Amazon Prime account.....

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