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  • bturner
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jun 2019
    • 1571

    • MI

    • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

    #31
    Too funny....

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    • buzzardmountain
      • May 2004
      • 80

      • NC


      #32
      Originally posted by MLA View Post

      I have great success with Interstate wet cell and AGM. Group-24 size. Depending on how you use the boat, you should at least have one main cranking or a pair of dual-purpose. If you spend a lot of time at anchor, then I consider one cranking and one deep-cycle.
      So I went with one cranking and one deep cycle. This may sound like a dumb question but which side does the cranking battery go and which side is the deep cycle? Port or Starboard side?
      Last edited by buzzardmountain; 05-22-2020, 05:41 AM.

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      • bturner
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jun 2019
        • 1571

        • MI

        • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

        #33
        If no one knows the answer you could always hook up just one battery, turn on the power and see if you can turn over the engine. If it works, turn the power off, disconnect the battery from that side and move it to the other. Turn the power on and try again. If it doesn't work you know have your answer.

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        • MLA
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 1312

          • Lake Wylie NC Area


          #34
          With a 1/2/BOTH battery switch, it really does not matter, but, you would then want to know if the cranking is now on the #1 or #2. Like bturner said, connect one battery and see which switch position powers the boat up.

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          • buzzardmountain
            • May 2004
            • 80

            • NC


            #35
            MLA Thanks for the advice to install one at a time and test out. Which leads to my next question...2016 G23. My switch is off/on/combine. I’ll attach a picture but when I purchased the boat, my dealer just told me when cranking or under power, to always keep it on combine. Didn’t make sense at the time but never questioned it. So is the deep cycle on “on” and when you crank you turn it to “combine”??? I’m sure this question has been asked but search for me is not being
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            • NautiqueJeff
              A d m i n i s t r a t o r
              • Mar 2002
              • 16517
              • Lake Norman

              • Mooresville, NC

              • 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique

              #36
              No, that's not how it is supposed to work. No need to use Combine unless you run the first battery down. When the engine is running, the boat automatically combines the batteries so that they both charge. Neither one is a deep cycle from the factory (actually they are dealer-installed).

              EDIT: I just saw that you installed one cranking and one deep cycle.
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              • Kmayotte
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Apr 2010
                • 819

                • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

                • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

                #37
                Resurrecting an old thread. Searching for new batteries for my 2016 G23 (still using original!)

                Sounds like Group 24, one cranking, one deep cycle is the way to go?

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                • shag
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2217

                  • Florida


                  #38
                  Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

                  This will be my onboard charger I'm getting installed and it states that it is compatible with AGM batteries


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                  The NOCO's are good. That is a small one--I opted for the next size up.

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                  • GMLIII
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                    • May 2013
                    • 2795

                    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                    #39
                    Works great no issues. The only reason I didn’t go with the more amp model NOCO was because of all the negative reviews and the overcharging of batteries . May be BS but the main reason I purchased the model above vs the high priced model with more amps
                    Last edited by GMLIII; 05-10-2022, 03:01 PM.

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                    • MN Ryan
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                      • Aug 2020
                      • 1250

                      • Maple Grove, MN

                      • 2007 SV-211 TE

                      #40
                      The only benefit to a larger (i.e. more amps) charger is faster recharge time. In this instance, I don't see a benefit unless you significant'y draw your batteries down and use your boat daily. It's a different story if we're talking trolling motor batteries in a fishing boat.

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                      • Kmayotte
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 819

                        • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

                        • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

                        #41
                        Originally posted by GMLIII View Post
                        Works great no issues. The only reason I didn’t go with the more amp model NOCO was because of all the negative reviews and the overcharging of batteries . May be BS but the main reason I purchased the model above vs the high priced model with more amps
                        Do you know proper stock battery size for 16/17 G23?

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                        • GMLIII
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 2795

                          • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                          • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                          #42
                          Kmayotte i don’t and it depends whether lead acid or AMG batteries because difference sizes . I replaceD my lead acid with AMG but don’t recall size. I’m sure one of the battery experts will chime in with size for G23 2016

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                          • MN Ryan
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                            • Aug 2020
                            • 1250

                            • Maple Grove, MN

                            • 2007 SV-211 TE

                            #43
                            *AGM

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                            • srock
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1066

                              • Florida

                              • 2009 Super Air 230 2005 Whaler Dauntless

                              #44
                              The only reason to install 1 deep cycle is if you plan on draining the battery down significantly meaning sitting somewhere with the sound system on for hours or leaving the boat in the water with the bilge pump "on". If you are not draining the deep cycle you are better with a standard lead-acid. If you are partially draining then an AGM is a good choice plus they charge faster when you start the engine. Personally, I use a deep cycle for trolling motors only and hate them for other uses and they suck as starting batteries. However, I also don't crank music for significant periods with the engine off. I am not a fan of music you cannot talk over.

                              It's also a bad idea to combine batteries especially if they are of different types or different ages without a combiner with start isolation while charging from the engine. If left combined, batteries will rob each other until they reach the same potential. Conversely, if you are charging you will keep forcing juice into a good battery if the other is bad.

                              It's Science!
                              Last edited by srock; 05-11-2022, 03:23 PM.

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                              • MLA
                                1,000 Post Club Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 1312

                                • Lake Wylie NC Area


                                #45
                                Faster charging is actually not a reason I suggest a higher capacity charger. A good benchmark is a charger that can deliver in amp, at least 10% of a battery's Ah rating. So if you have a 100Ah battery, then you would want 10A for it. So a 20A dual bank would do it. One reason to have more output then needed, is not too different from the bigger truck to to argument. A larger charger is likely yo have more heat sink mass for heat dissipation. It wont work as hard as a lower capacity charger to service the same battery Ah.

                                I believe a 2016 will have group-24 batteries and boxes from the factory. If you plan to regularly run accessories for long periods with the engine off, then a deep-cycle on one side and a cranking on the other side is best. If you do go AGM, it does not matter, they dont carry the cranking/ deep-cycle labels.

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